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I don't believe those terms are strictly Biblical terms. Original sin is more of a doctrinal statement than a Biblical assertion.Hello
Can I ask for confirmation here that The Bible never actually uses the term 'Original Sin' or 'the Fall' or 'Fallen Man'?
Many thanks.
High1
Hello
Can I ask for confirmation here that The Bible never actually uses the term 'Original Sin' or 'the Fall' or 'Fallen Man'?
Many thanks.
High1
No Original SIN!
The day of Eve per se 'choosing' to try the apple, was an analogy of choice (consciousness) being born.
In a sense, it was the day we began to know 'good and bad' in which mankind could choose for self over the instinct of 'taking' for life (to live).
The critters are not like us and the day of choice was the day (in the story of course)
Gen 3 20 And the man calleth his wife's name Eve: for she hath been mother of all living.
Words were born (mankind created all words)
21 And Jehovah God doth make to the man and to his wife coats of skin, and doth clothe them.
that nature (god) provided clothing and that self awareness (covering of self) was known
22 And Jehovah God saith, `Lo, the man was as one of Us, as to the knowledge of good and evil; and now, lest he send forth his hand, and have taken also of the tree of life, and eaten, and lived to the age,'
that we became aware and can choose to do good and bad and live in what we do
this is technical in that to know what life is (light upon mass) then we are a life that can contribute our energy to 'support life to continue' by choice.
we can take from existence (loss to the common) or we can contribute to existence (support life to continue)
knowing this comes from the 'evolution' of knowledge by the continuous progression of mankinds 'words' and awarenenss.
we are the children of nature (God) experiencing itself (mass comprehending its existence)
words are what transcends time and evolve for us to learn from the previous generations.
we can actually live forever in what we do and know it
that is what the last chapter to mankind (the revealing) is all about
the per se good guy and per se bad guy, are the same guy as when the revealing is conveyed to the people, the children will no longer ever need 'beliefs' to control their thinking and the 'power minds' will be gone forever!
'we the people' are one and will know it! :yes:
anything written above go against anyones 'common sense' ? :beach:
Wow that is just crazy.
Adam and Eve choosing the apple was the first test of free will.
Adam already was naming stuff in Genesis 2:20 long before Eve was created. He did not name Eve till Genesis 3:20 as you listed.
Genesis 2:25 Adam and Eve were naked and not ashamed. It is not until Genesis 3:10 that they cover themselves with fig leaves ,because they were ashamed of what they had done by partaking of the tree of knowledge. Later on after God scolded them in Genesis 3:21 did He finally cloth them.
The Tree of Life is Jesus. So by taking of the tree of life they are repenting.
Do yourself a favor and don't preach the Bible anymore.
cuz i'm a wild and crazy guyWow that is just crazy.
Adam and Eve choosing the apple was the first test of free will.
the book of genesis, is supposedly from Moses, who lived in Pharoahs house since an infant.Adam already was naming stuff in Genesis 2:20 long before Eve was created. He did not name Eve till Genesis 3:20 as you listed.
as that is what you believe they were 'thinking' (funny stuff)Genesis 2:25 Adam and Eve were naked and not ashamed.
the tree of knowledge is how you learn.It is not until Genesis 3:10 that they cover themselves with fig leaves ,because they were ashamed of what they had done by partaking of the tree of knowledge.
then why was he happy to sayLater on after God scolded them in Genesis 3:21 did He finally cloth them.
The Tree of Life is Jesus. So by taking of the tree of life they are repenting.
Do yourself a favor and don't preach the Bible anymore.
I think you're all nuts, but that's just me.
The original sin(NO these words are not used anywhere in Genesis), while not being called such, was not the tree at all. It was the lie.
collectively, the most self centered concentration of human being on earthI don't know why everyone(Bishadi) focuses on the fact that I am in New York now, as if that is some excuse.
Especially since I wasn't in New York two weeks ago(I was in Tel Aviv) Nor was I in New York two months ago. I was in Arkansas. This is actually my first time in New York. But Bishadi would know more about that than I would.
Man had choice prior to that G-d-forsaken tree. He has a choice as to what to name the animals. He choose to join Eve in her disobedience. Keep in mind, disobedience was not a sin at this point. But then again, neither was lying, until he got caught.
Remember, the first question G-d asked them was why they didn't answer his call. Not why did you eat from the tree. That was the third question.
that is what lying ishere's one take....
the "eve" of the fall...
is the first half of humanity listening literally to double forked "tongues"
of twisted truth....
and then the other half of humanity following along blindly, is what does everybody in.
as to follow words (beliefs) over what you experience in life, is why conflict, divide and the inner pain of predeterminations harm so manylisten to "others" instead of the still small voice in the garden of your own BEing...
and the mess we live in is what you get.
It truly is a "sin".
literalists will never comprehend the riddles.
what you gunna do?
Adam disobeyed and there was consequences. Some call this 'Original Sin' but in certain interpretations this implies automatic eternal damnation. False. There is an whole list of consequences given for Adam's disobedience but eternal damnation is not among them.
It wasn't an apple.Adam and Eve choosing the apple was the first test of free will.
The Tree of Life is Jesus. So by taking of the tree of life they are repenting.
The tree wasn't Jesus. The author(s) didn't know of Jesus. and it wasn't the "Tree of Life." It was the "Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil."Wow that is just crazy.
Do yourself a favor and don't preach the Bible anymore.
Isn't that a narcotics officer?poppy cop
No, it means physical death. The author(s) would have had no idea what a "soul" was.Genesis 2: 16 and 2:17 God tells Adam to eat of the tree of knowledge means certain death. This means death of the soul not physical body.