Question for those who believe homosexuality is immoral.

[Tau]

My child will never stop being my child. If I see her living an immoral life, then I will interfere.

More fool you then, prepare yourself then for conflict and strife, all totally unecessary of course but then who am I to judge you?...good luck then my friend because if your 'nightmare scenario' comes true then you are going to need it.

Like burger king have it Your way...

 

[Tau]

No, because I believe it's something that can be fixed.

Yeah?

Well maybe some of us don't want to be 'fixed' maybe we like being loved by another man or woman, maybe if you can get your head around this, 'we' gay men just don't find women sexually attractive, in the slightest....and no amount of brainwashing will alter that.

I personally do not use labels to denote my sexual orientation so I am partly playing devil's advocate for the sake of empthasis, I personally do find some women attractive, but I know many guys who find the naked female form repulsive/uninteresting and vice versa of course.

 

[Sententia]

TOugh call. In all honesty I don't know. I guess the old saying goes cross that bridge when/if we come to it. Just for the record, I would still love her and care for her, I'm not a heartless bas****. But, I would try to help her. IMHO I would think she is sick and thus try to seek a cure.

I would work on healing yourself first. She is most definitely not sick but rather is how I feel after reading your response... Hypothetically.

Nice avatar.

 

[madhatter85]

Yeah?

Well maybe some of us don't want to be 'fixed' maybe we like being loved by another man or woman, maybe if you can get your head around this, 'we' gay men just don't find women sexually attractive, in the slightest....and no amount of brainwashing will alter that.

I personally do not use labels to denote my sexual orientation so I am partly playing devil's advocate for the sake of empthasis, I personally do find some women attractive, but I know many guys who find the naked female form repulsive/uninteresting and vice versa of course.

So? find a butch woman? there are plently of women who look like men.

 

[madhatter85]

How many times do you people have to be told that homosexuality is not a sickness? Sigh.

nobody said it was a sickness, just a genetic defect. Unless it's a choice, then it's just a choice.

 

[Sententia]

So? find a butch woman? there are plently of women who look like men.

Seriously? Insensitive, ignorant, crass and harrassment. Shame on you.

 

[Sententia]

nobody said it was a sickness, just a genetic defect.

Really? Thats your stance? You need a mirror.

 

[Hexaqua_David(II)]

So? find a butch woman? there are plently of women who look like men.

:no: That wouldn't work at all. We gay men want things even butch women cannot provide.

 

[madhatter85]

Seriously? Insensitive, ignorant, crass and harrassment. Shame on you.

what? it's an observation. I'm a car salesman, i look for loopholes in people arguments and explout them to get them to buy.

Fact is there are alot of women in this world who look like men, and if you find how women look (in the general sense) unappealing, then i'm sure you would find one of these women attractive, and since thier shot at finding a handsome guy is all but null, i would advice dating them instead of "normal looking" women.

 

[madhatter85]

:no: That wouldn't work at all. We gay men want things even butch women cannot provide.

Oh they have ways :areyoucra

 

[madhatter85]

Really? Thats your stance? You need a mirror.

i have a great big one on my bathroom wall, what would you like for me to do with it?

 

[Sententia]

what? it's an observation. I'm a car salesman, i look for loopholes in people arguments and explout them to get them to buy.

Fact is there are alot of women in this world who look like men, and if you find how women look (in the general sense) then i'm sure you would find one of these women attractive, and since thier shot at finding a handsome guy is all but null, i would advice dating them instead of "normal looking" women.

When you read that you don't see how shallow that is? I'm guessing no. :no:

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

what? it's an observation. I'm a car salesman, i look for loopholes in people arguments and explout them to get them to buy.

And do you find that offending your customers works well as a sales technique?

If I went into a car dealership looking for a truck with a towing capacity of 4,000 pounds and the salesman responded "well... this truck can't tow that much, but it looks like it could", that salesman would likely not be getting my business.

 

[madhatter85]

When you read that you don't see how shallow that is? I'm guessing no. :no:

So? you made a shallow comment as to "i don't find women physically attractive" and made that a whole argument as to how someone can't "change it"

I just showed you how to overcome your own shallow behavior.

 

[madhatter85]

And do you find that offending your customers works well as a sales technique?

If I went into a car dealership looking for a truck with a towing capacity of 4,000 pounds and the salesman responded "well... this truck can't tow that much, but it looks like it could", that salesman would likely not be getting my business.

so you're saying Butch women can't tow 4000 lbs? wierd, i thought they could...

And often times, offending them makes them realize thier own mistakes and shallowness, and makes you more money in the process. If i offend you and you leave, you weren't going to buy the car anways so it better to get rid of you faster and not waste my time. - true car salesman tactic taught in sales training.

 

[Magic Man]

so you're saying Butch women can't tow 4000 lbs? wierd, i thought they could...

And often times, offending them makes them realize thier own mistakes and shallowness, and makes you more money in the process. If i offend you and you leave you weren't going to buy the car anways.

Wow, what a way to try to make your case.

So, you irrational way of looking at things isn't limited to religion and homosexuality, huh? Do you really believe that offending people has that effect ever? I take it you like dealing with people who offend you. Normally, people try to give good customer service to avoid offending people. The reason for that is so they will keep those people as customers. You see, most people tend to leave and not patronize places where people offend them. I guess you don't make a whole lot of money there, huh?

 

[madhatter85]

Fact - When dealign with sexual attration, there is something that each of us finds attractive when that attribute is in another person.

This could be a facial feature, or muscular structure, or bone structure, or the color of skin. These features can be found on both males and females. these features do not discriminate male or females alike. It;s just a matter of finding someone of the opposite sex with those features in which you desire.

Emotionally, you could have a relationship with a cat..... emotions can be found anywhere you are willing to look. then it becomes Choice.

If it's merely sex.... then it's just a perversion like pedophilia or beastiality, which can be overcome with therapy and psychological treatment.

 

[madhatter85]

Wow, what a way to try to make your case.

So, you irrational way of looking at things isn't limited to religion and homosexuality, huh? Do you really believe that offending people has that effect ever? I take it you like dealing with people who offend you. Normally, people try to give good customer service to avoid offending people. The reason for that is so they will keep those people as customers. You see, most people tend to leave and not patronize places where people offend them. I guess you don't make a whole lot of money there, huh?

on the contrary, Car sales is not customer service, anyoen who thinks that is wrong. Car sales is just that. sales. some try to make it seem like customer service but in reality they are just ripping people off no matter how you look at it. (which is why i quit, but that's another story.)

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

so you're saying Butch women can't tow 4000 lbs? wierd, i thought they could...

You are familiar with the concept of an analogy, aren't you?

Okay... let's try again without it. This fundamentally doesn't work: "You're not interested in women? Well, that woman doesn't look like a woman. You can be interested in her."

And often times, offending them makes them realize thier own mistakes and shallowness, and makes you more money in the process. If i offend you and you leave, you weren't going to buy the car anways so it better to get rid of you faster and not waste my time. - true car salesman tactic taught in sales training.

I wouldn't have bought the car you were trying to pawn off on me, but I may have been ready to plunk down sticker price for the truck I actually wanted, with the extended warranty, ScotchGuarding and prepaid dealership service package.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Emotionally, you could have a relationship with a cat..... emotions can be found anywhere you are willing to look. then it becomes Choice.

Ah... so you chose to be heterosexual?