Do Mormons Support Obama

[ohyeah]

Not really. It is all just a "ring-around-the-rosie-avoid-the-question-dance," that you are doing. You have not answered a single question nor have you been "specific" enough.



No, you haven't.



Glad you think I need a lecture, but I do not appreciate being talked-down because you think I do not understand the constitution and different forms of democratic governments.



Straw-man.

your diversionary attempts won't work on me.

i have made my case.

if you can't understand what i am talking about, i recommend you go back to the drawing board and learn about the kind of spirit and principles like self-reliance and freedom that make this country great.

by the way, it can't be a straw-man if you have characterized your opposing point of view correctly which i have.

 

[Bishka]

your diversionary attempts won't work on me.

What "diversionary attempts," would you be referring to? Me asking you to actually answer the question.

i have made my case.

And your "case" speaks volumes of silence and unwillingness. I've offered to discuss with you (or anyone for that matter) why I see the Democratic Party and Barack Obama's stances to be one's the Church members should be proud of, but you have declined again and again.

by the way, it can't be a straw-man if you have characterized your opposing point of view correctly which i have.

Your opinion only.

Not a fact, not a theory.

Just opinion.

 

[ohyeah]

Not really. It is all just a "ring-around-the-rosie-avoid-the-question-dance," that you are doing. You have not answered a single question nor have you been "specific" enough.



No, you haven't.



Glad you think I need a lecture, but I do not appreciate being talked-down because you think I do not understand the constitution and different forms of democratic governments.



Straw-man.

I have.

Haven't heard it once, could you be specific and actually point out anything (anything at all) that he has said that makes him represent himself as a twenty-year old?



Again, you claim it's "hogwash" but you haven't been able to once point out what is actually "hogwash" about Barack Obama's positions in this presidential race. You wave to vague generalizations like "I've already stated my position," when in reality you have just ran around in a circle without bothering to look outside it.



You have wasted your time. You've wasted your time running in circles expecting to come out the victor when all you have done is repeated yourself like a broken record.



Really?

In the Law of Consecration there will be this "perfect society," that if you don't want to live the Law of Consecration you cannot be part of it. Now, how does this differ from now?

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I see you inability to answer any of my questions or even take a slow jab at anything presented here in this thread and I regard my participation in it over; unless you can start backing up your positions and participate instead dancing around a straw man.

if you bury your head in the sand, you can't progress. you are just hurting yourself like the anti-mormons who have eyes but can't see, ears but can't hear.

i told you, i am not here to write a term paper. i am not going to spend the night researching and arguing obama speeches. if you buy that load of malarkey, well God bless ya. Sure he talks good, and he makes some of what he says sound pretty convincing; so does satan.

 

[ohyeah]

What "diversionary attempts," would you be referring to? Me asking you to actually answer the question.



And your "case" speaks volumes of silence and unwillingness. I've offered to discuss with you (or anyone for that matter) why I see the Democratic Party and Barack Obama's stances to be one's the Church members should be proud of, but you have declined again and again.



Your opinion only.

Not a fact, not a theory.

Just opinion.

what have you stated?

yes my silence speaks volumes; just like regarding the church-been there done that- i don't have to prove anything. the proof is in the pudding. this country raised itself up on principles of freedom and incentive to produce.

the liberals are hell bent to take that away.

if you have something to prove, then go for it.

tell us about all these things that obama with all of his no experience is going to do for this country and how he's going to do it, and explain the true and correct principles they are based on.

what are the basic true and correct principles of liberalism?

 

[Bishka]

I see you inability to answer any of my questions or even take a slow jab at anything presented here in this thread and I regard my participation in it over; unless you can start backing up your positions and participate instead dancing around a straw man.

Look up.

 

[nutshell]

you are not going to learn anything if you run away like a little child screaming no, no, no i'm not going to listen.

you want to vote for him, be my guest. he talks good, but that's about all. would you invest 35000 dollars on a car you never heard of because the salesman talks good? that's about all you have with him; other than his oratorial ablilities there's not record of much more than that. you are pretty much buying an unknown. he's selling an illusion which is a typical trait of the left. it's all image and big talk.

you either believe in true and correct principles or you don't. if you don't know what they are, then i recommend you learn them otherwise you will be able to be driven by every wind of strange doctrine in your life rather than be able to figure out the truth on your own.

if you are the kind that took your umbilical cord at birth and are spending the rest of your life looking for a place to plug it in i.e. you want a system where the government takes care of you and fixes all your problems from the cradle to the grave, then i recommend you move to a country that already has such a system and leave the american system of freedom in tact.

You have not answered my question (which is really no surprise). I've created a separate thread and invite you to come and demonstrate how Obama's stance on the issues is against God. General comments will not satisfy. Be specific. You're making the claims. Quit being weak and back them up.

 

[nutshell]

Here is a link to the thread I started: http://www.religiousforums.com/foru...8-lds-only-obamas-stances-issues-against.html

 

[Reverend Rick]

What would LDS members think of a McCain / Romney ticket?

 

[Bishka]

What would LDS members think of a McCain / Romney ticket?

*Shudder*

Hell no.

 

[ohyeah]

You have not answered my question (which is really no surprise). I've created a separate thread and invite you to come and demonstrate how Obama's stance on the issues is against God. General comments will not satisfy. Be specific. You're making the claims. Quit being weak and back them up.

i get in your face, refuse you take your malarkey and cow tow to your demands; you accuse me of being weak.

i made my case; you accuse me of not.

what are you, an anti-mormon?

 

[Reverend Rick]

Hell no, it won't happen or hell no you would not vote for it?

 

[Bishka]

Hell no, it won't happen or hell no you would not vote for it?

Hopefully to the first one.

Hell no to the second one.

 

[Reverend Rick]

M&M ticket

 

[ohyeah]

What would LDS members think of a McCain / Romney ticket?

personally i think that would be about the smartest thing that could happen.

just think, a team of two people who actually have real world experience in national defense and the economy as opposed to try to convince people that they do.

 

[Bishka]

M&M ticket

Pardon?

 

[nutshell]

i get in your face, refuse you take your malarkey and cow tow to your demands; you accuse me of being weak.

i made my case; you accuse me of not.

what are you, an anti-mormon?

You still have not answered my question. I'm calling a spade a spade. Either get to the thread I started with a solid argument or GET OUT!

 

[Bishka]

what are you, an anti-mormon?

Wasn't aware that a difference of opinion made someone an "anti-Mormon," it is very sad when member's stoop so low to suggest that one of their own is "anti-Mormon."

 

[Reverend Rick]

Pardon?

That's the buzz word M&M ticket= McCain & Mitt

 

[nutshell]

Honestly, I think McCain has almost zero reasons to choose Romney. McCain needs someone who will excite the base and (sadly) if he can get a minority to try and head off some of the automatic votes to Hillary or Obama, that would help him.

Trouble is, minorities who excite the base are few and far between.

 

[Reverend Rick]

Honestly, I think McCain has almost zero reasons to choose Romney. McCain needs someone who will excite the base and (sadly) if he can get a minority to try and head off some of the automatic votes to Hillary or Obama, that would help him.

Trouble is, minorities who excite the base are few and far between.

McCain said he knew next to nothing about economics, he needs Romney. The two of them would be a powerful package.