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Do Mormons Support Obama

DeepShadow

DeepShadow

White Crow
zippythepinhead said:
While working on my MPA I got sick of papers. Thus I rely on myself as a valid source. After all I am a self proclaimed Mensa guy;)
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Right, I figured that's where this was going. I think you've destroyed your credibility enough to warrant a place on my ignore list.
 
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jonny

Well-Known Member
zippythepinhead said:
Obama is for change. Obama is for hope. Obama hopes for change. Obama plans to change the hope. Therefore with hope and change at stake, would you vote for Barack Hussein Obama for President?


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I already voted for Barack in the primaries. If he makes it to the general election, I'll probably vote for him there also. I don't want another warmonger as our president.

Mormons should NOT have supported the Iraq War, and the Bush administration played on our fears to get our support. Iraq didn't attack us, and the Book of Mormon makes it clear that the only time when war is justified is when you're defending yourself and your family. We should NEVER be the aggressors in a war.

Now that we've screwed their country up, I think we have the obligation to put it back together, but I'm never falling for this preemptive war thing again.
 
Sola'lor

Sola'lor

LDSUJC
I honestly think Obama will unfortunatly be the next president. But if we're lucky enough not to get him we're left with Hillary. And I pray everyday that we wont get Hillary. And if we're lucky enough that Hillary doesn't get elected then we're left with McCain.

So no matter what, we're screwed.
 
Bishka

Bishka

Veteran Member
Sola'lor said:
I honestly think Obama will unfortunatly be the next president. But if we're lucky enough not to get him we're left with Hillary. And I pray everyday that we wont get Hillary. And if we're lucky enough that Hillary doesn't get elected then we're left with McCain.

So no matter what, we're screwed.
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How is this so "unfortunate?"
 
DougLDS

DougLDS

Rough Stone Rolling
zippythepinhead said:
The thing that scares me about Obama is his charasmatic form and then knowing what he truly wants for America. Charasmatic leaders have got to be watched. Reagan was charasmatic, but he also wanted a strong America.

I don't think Obama wants a strong America. I think that he wants a weakened socialist America and to distance us from the Founding Fathers intentions for us as a nation.:human::peace:
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I don't think the founding fathers would want have wanted us in Iraq for 1 year much less the 100 years that McSame thinks we could be there. McSame lost my vote with that comment.
 
DougLDS

DougLDS

Rough Stone Rolling
zippythepinhead said:
Obama is for change. Obama is for hope. Obama hopes for change. Obama plans to change the hope. Therefore with hope and change at stake, would you vote for Barack Hussein Obama for President?
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I'd vote for Saddam Hussein if he were running against Hillary.
 
nutshell

nutshell

Well-Known Member
The thing about Obama or Hillary is that we've gone so far to the right, having someone from the left in office may bring us back to center (which is where I like to be).
 
Apex

Apex

Somewhere Around Nothing
nutshell said:
The thing about Obama or Hillary is that we've gone so far to the right, having someone from the left in office may bring us back to center (which is where I like to be).
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Obama might achieve some of that (except for some of his overly idealistic views that would never work in reality) but the only direction Hillary would take us be in circles till we were too dizzy to know what just happened.:areyoucra
 
nutshell

nutshell

Well-Known Member
Apex said:
Obama might achieve some of that (except for some of his overly idealistic views that would never work in reality) but the only direction Hillary would take us be in circles till we were too dizzy to know what just happened.:areyoucra
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Blanket statements like this are basically worthless.
 
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ohyeah

Member
zippythepinhead said:
Obama is for change. Obama is for hope. Obama hopes for change. Obama plans to change the hope. Therefore with hope and change at stake, would you vote for Barack Hussein Obama for President?
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i don't understand how an active lds who understands our beliefs could support him.

at the core of our beliefs is the importance of our free agency. if you look at satan's tools, they are all designed to take away our free agency.

everything that obama stands for is also about taking away our free agency.

he wants us to all work for the government. what kind of government is that? the more of your money they control, the more they control you.

also if you look at the left on virtually every issue they support, you will see they are consistently against God.
 
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ohyeah

Member
nutshell said:
The thing about Obama or Hillary is that we've gone so far to the right, having someone from the left in office may bring us back to center (which is where I like to be).
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texas quote: there's nothing in the middle of the road but yellow lines and squished armadillos.

mr miagi: you can walk down one side of the road and be o.k., you can walk down the other side of the road and be o.k., try to walk down the middle and eventually squish, just like a grape.
 
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