The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
I can't disagree with this.
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UK general election May 2015
- Thread starter Sultan Of Swing
- Start date
I can't disagree with this.
The Emperor of Mankind
Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
It would be more honest than anything else as the two parties, by and large, are pretty much the same nowadays.
Ultimatum
Classical Liberal
The reason that HSBC wants to leave the UK if we left the EU masks the real reasons they want to leave:
1. The Bank Levy. HSBC is blackmailing the Treasury over an increased bank levy.
2. Their main market is actually in Asia. It would be cheaper and more profitable to move there.
Yerda
Veteran Member
Does the Guardian misrepresent this study?
Ultimatum
Classical Liberal
Well the study is unreasonable in the first place.
Yerda
Veteran Member
Perhaps, but hardly unreasonable for the media to report it's findings. The report appears to say exactly what The Guardian claims it says. That's not misinformation, it's reporting.
Ultimatum
Classical Liberal
It's unreasonable to portray to the British public that this would really happen, isn't it? The report is disingenuous and, under the Guardian's complete knowledge of what they were reporting, it's also disingenuous for the newspaper to release this story.
I'm not saying that we should mute anything that is not pro-EU, but at least get the facts right beforehand.
Also, I was talking about misinformation, not misrepresentation.
Yerda
Veteran Member
The study said what they claimed it said. It wasn't misinforming anyone. I would say that they probably endorse the message given that past editorials have warned of the costs of leaving the EU, but it was a piece of reporting (on an apparently respectable institute with a good record).
Also in the same paper today, Nigel Farage: the English are biggest victims of racism because of Scots | Politics | The Guardian
I would hesitate to call this misinformation however. Just more gibberish from an unrepentant idiot.
Ultimatum
Classical Liberal
And it's a misinformative report!
Yes it is--it equates the non-EU countries of Switzerland and Norway as having a similar status with regards to EU-relations.
The report runs at a tiny seven pages long. It's not exactly a comprehensive report--especially from a "respectable institute".
Bloody hell, that's a misleading headline.
He never said that the English were the biggest victims of racism; neither did he say that it was because of Scots. Good try, though.
Altfish
Veteran Member
It's joke Ultimatum, calm down
Yerda
Veteran Member
Is it not a respected institute? I neither know or care. An article reporting the publishing of a report is not misinformation.
He did say this though,Ultimatum said:
“The biggest racism I’ve seen in British politics is happening north of the border with the SNP, where some of the anti-English hatred is reaching a truly astonishing level and I would think that if the BBC are worried about racism that’s where they ought to be looking... The SNP are openly racist. The anti-English hostility and the kind of language that is used about and towards English people is totally extraordinary.”
Total pish. As usual.
Ultimatum
Classical Liberal
The report is misinformative and gives the wrong impression. The Guardian, by knowingly advertising this report, is extending the reach of this misinformation.
It's like saying that it's not ASDAs fault for selling pork that was labelled as chicken, but was the fault of the manufacturer of said product--which is true, but there needs to be some sort of quality control, also.
No he didn't.
The biggest racism in British politics.
With the SNP. Not the Scots, as is proudly presented in the headline...[/QUOTE]
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Yeah, only the Daily Mail tells the truth on Europe
The Daily Wail and UKIP seem like a perfect match.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
So assuming another coalition of sorts, what do you think is the most likely outcome?
Labour/SNP or Labour/Lib Dem or Tory/Lib Dem?
PS I'm assuming that UKIP and the Greens won't actually win many seats.
Labour/SNP or Labour/Lib Dem or Tory/Lib Dem?
PS I'm assuming that UKIP and the Greens won't actually win many seats.
Altfish
Veteran Member
Don't forget the DUP will go with the Tories, now they make UKIP look liberal.
Latest from Election Forecast: -
Conservatives 280
Labour 270
SNP 47
Liberal Democrats 27
DUP 8
Plaid Cymru 4
SDLP 3
UKIP 2
Greens 1
Other 8
..and you know this, exactly how?
Overwhelmingly the most agenda-driven lying drivel-sheet in publication is the Daily Mail: I have lost count of the number of stories that were shown to be outright lies, especially when they print pretty much anything about the EU: I mean this honestly, if you have got your information about the EU from reading the Daily Mail, you've been systemically and intentionally misinformed.
E.g. 75% of our laws come from Europe - though if memory serves, that was reported in the DM as a result of the misinformed UKIP claim.
I've got a rather amusing UKIP leaflet here: it says "Standing up for Real change", then goes on to list the policies, all but one of which (the getting out of Europe bit) are how things need *not* to change. And it tells the same lie about 75% of our laws coming from Europe (or should I just say "it's misinformative and gives the wrong impression"?)