use_your_brain
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You can not stop the radical/fundamentalist people practicing that such punishment since the religion advocates it.
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I am sceptical of the Skeptics. Is it wrong?
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leibowde84
Veteran Member
Doesn't that point to a problem with morality in regards to said religion, though?
use_your_brain
Active Member
morality? what does it stand for? religious laws or cultural etiquette? in religion, morality merely base on religious teaching per se ( it is my personal opinion)..
leibowde84
Veteran Member
My point is, maybe the religious teachings are wrong. Maybe they are misunderstood and, in actuality, go against God's will.
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
Yes, you can. If you care anything about morality, you can bring it up. It is like when Abraham asks God about the need to roast two entire cities. It's mean and Abe knows it.
use_your_brain
Active Member
yes religious teaching are wrong, sometimes, in the eyes of human rights in the west.
use_your_brain
Active Member
I mean we can do nothing if the God punishes people in hell brutally.
cambridge79
Active Member
either they are spreading false teachings in wich case you can show them for being dishonest, or they are practicing true teachings in wich case people have the right to feel religions are actually dangerous.
for example you can't say at the same time that "islam is a religion of peace" and that "islam has the right to punish blasphemy with death" because one negates the other. You either stand on one side or you stand on the other.
Corthos
Great Old One
That's true... When scriptures are taken as 100% undeniable truth, then it blinds people to the fact that there are many conflicting "truths" that come with many interpretations. This is a danger of literalism... People will blindingly adhere to their "truths" and discard other ideas or interpretations as "false". This makes people prone to unquestioning suggestion...
A la the manipulation of those who left to unquestionably join ISIS. Manipulation can be easily wielded when you are told something is 100% true whether or not it ACTUALLY says that... People are flawed like that, even if a text is "perfect", and the more "perfect" it is, the more they can be duped.
cambridge79
Active Member
but we can do something for people who are punished brutally here by other people. for example ending the nonsense
leibowde84
Veteran Member
Not in the eyes of human rights in the west, I mean maybe they are wrong in the eyes of God.
use_your_brain
Active Member
I am sure they do practice the true teaching from religion. Religion is actually dangerous to the guilty people.
use_your_brain
Active Member
as long as they practice the religion properly then they are right in the eyes of God.
cambridge79
Active Member
well even Hitler wasn't dangerous if you were a german and you weren't jew, would you say Hitler was a man of peace?
Kelly of the Phoenix
Well-Known Member
People say that but I feel differently. In the bible, Jesus tells a parable about a dead rich dude and a dead poor dude. It is said there is a gulf you cannot cross. However, no one ever stops to wonder how they are talking to each other if it's truly that separate. Thus, I am under the impression that there are loopholes that no one ever thinks to exploit.
cambridge79
Active Member
i oppose earthly punishment cause it's pointless and evil.
i don't care about after life punishment cause i don't believe in it like you don't care for example about christian hell cause you're not a christian.
use_your_brain
Active Member
good analogy, but different in ideology, purpose, and justice.
use_your_brain
Active Member
earthly punishment is meaningful in the sense of justice among human kind and obedience to God even although it is evil.
leibowde84
Veteran Member
I mean, what if the religion itself and its teachings are wrong in the eyes of God? I'll take it you think that is an impossibility, so can you explain why.
use_your_brain
Active Member
All religious laws from the alleged true religion are right, true in the eyes of God.