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Elect Trump...Or Face Bloodbath

Regiomontanus

Ματαιοδοξία ματαιοδοξιών! Όλα είναι ματαιοδοξία.
The Bible offers whatever anyone wants.
Peace....it's got that.
Vengeance....it's got that too.

A Christian should be following the teachings of the Christ Jesus. If so, then they would be embracing love, charity, and forgiveness.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
A Christian should be following the teachings of the Christ Jesus. If so, then they would be embracing love, charity, and forgiveness.
There are many flavors of Christianity.
You cite one...perhaps several among many.
But others are not peaceful or tolerant.
 
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Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
It appears to be an effective tool to create stochastic
terrorism & insurrection. Echoing his pre 1.6.2021
vitriol, Trump uses such language to no only inspire
Magas, but to create a climate wherein it feels normal
to become violent against political enemies.
While less effective than a direct call to violence, it does
give him plausible deniability & some inoculation against
prosecution.
This is absolute proof that the media and democrats are liars and will do anything to make Trump look bad. The headline here is not just misleading but a downright lie. Just like CNN's and MSNBC's headlines said this same thing that there will be a bloodbath is he isn't elected, that is not what he said and they know it. Anyone who listens to his speech knows it as well.

Why the lies? When the media lies for one political party they have become the enemy of the people. Democrat voters are being used and they are falling for it. Thinking they are on the righteous side when they are actually supporting authoritarianism.

Something to think about:


[w]hen national Democrats talk to the country they always seem to be talking to themselves. They are of the left, as is their constituency, which wins the popular vote in presidential elections; the mainstream media through which they send their messages is of the left; the academics, historians and professionals they consult are of the left. They get in the habit of talking to themselves, in their language, in a single, looped conversation. They have no idea how they sound to the non-left, so they have no idea when they are damaging themselves. ~ Peggy Noonan

Well, possibly. Perhaps it is a loop, and they have no idea of what they are doing and how toxic and authoritarian they sound. For the sake of statistical possibility, however, it is prudent to consider a different hypothesis. These Democratic myrmidons are not incompetent but, rather, ideologically fanatical and the only reason they cannot run a roller over half of the country with raw power is because of the beautiful design of the centuries-old system, one that nudges towards compromise. In a binary polity, when one side is in power and is determined to wreck the checks and balances that this constitution provides, they are the authoritarians, not the side that is opposing them.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
It appears to be an effective tool to create stochastic
terrorism & insurrection. Echoing his pre 1.6.2021
vitriol, Trump uses such language to no only inspire
Magas, but to create a climate wherein it feels normal
to become violent against political enemies.
While less effective than a direct call to violence, it does
give him plausible deniability & some inoculation against
prosecution.
There was much more in that speech -- much of which would not be tolerated if posted here on RF. For example, saying about other people, "they're not human, they're animals." Which of our Mods would permit any one of us to post that here?

Yet, he knows that's whipping up his base -- turning man against man, neighbour against neighbour in a hate-filled rant to frighten poor little MAGAs, fanning the flames of their terror that they are somehow being "taken over." Yeah.
 

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
This is absolute proof that the media and democrats are liars and will do anything to make Trump look bad. The headline here is not just misleading but a downright lie.
Trump said -- and this is a quote -- "“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.” He said that in no particular context, so we can only suppose he means what it seems he's saying.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
There was much more in that speech -- much of which would not be tolerated if posted here on RF. For example, saying about other people, "they're not human, they're animals." Which of our Mods would permit any one of us to post that here?

Yet, he knows that's whipping up his base -- turning man against man, neighbour against neighbour in a hate-filled rant to frighten poor little MAGAs, fanning the flames of their terror that they are somehow being "taken over." Yeah.
We know that such speech will have that effect
upon some. I'm sure Trump knows it, & exercises
care to inspire violence without legal culpability.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Trump said -- and this is a quote -- "“Now, if I don’t get elected, it’s gonna be a bloodbath. That’s going to be the least of it. It’s going to be a bloodbath for the country.” He said that in no particular context, so we can only suppose he means what it seems he's saying.
He did say it in a particular context. On both sides of the comment he is talking about the auto industry, even Pence says he was only talking about the auto industry. The left including Biden has used that term before.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
He never said there will be a bloodbath if he is not elected outside of the context of the auto industry.
We agree that he said it.
Do you see how the more volatile Magas
could be inspired to violence if he loses?
Adding to context is Trump's claim that if
he loses, it'll be the end of democracy.
This is a pretty frightening consequence.
Together, those statements paint a picture
of context larger than just auto sales.
 
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Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
We agree that he said it.
Do you see how the more volatile Magas
could be inspired to violence if he loses?
Adding to context is Trump's claim that if
he loses, it'll be the end of democracy.
This is a pretty frightening consequence.
Together, those statements paint a picture
of context larger than just auto sales.
No, you are just trained to think so. The left including BIden says all the time democracy could end if Trump is elected and they compare Trump to Hitler. Do you have a problem with these comments? He was specifically talking about the auto industry, making it about something else is dishonest.
 

anna.

but mostly it's the same
No, you are just trained to think so. The left including BIden says all the time democracy could end if Trump is elected and they compare Trump to Hitler. Do you have a problem with these comments? He was specifically talking about the auto industry, making it about something else is dishonest.

As has been posted here, it doesn't matter if the context isn't pinned down. You're picking that hill to die on, perhaps in an effort to water down his rhetoric to something appearing at least marginally normal, but it's not possible to make him appear marginally normal.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
No, you are just trained to think so. The left including BIden says all the time democracy could end if Trump is elected and they compare Trump to Hitler. Do you have a problem with these comments? He was specifically talking about the auto industry, making it about something else is dishonest.
Out of the two of them. whose supporters have already engaged in a violent attack against the Capitol?
Do you think it's a good idea to rile up those same people AGAIN?
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
As has been posted here, it doesn't matter if the context isn't pinned down. You're picking that hill to die on, perhaps in an effort to water down his rhetoric to something appearing at least marginally normal, but it's not possible to make him appear marginally normal.
What? The context matters if you care about truth.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Out of the two of them. whose supporters have already engaged in a violent attack against the Capitol?
Do you think it's a good idea to rile up those same people AGAIN?
And those people are being prosecuted. The left has attacked state capitals without consequence.

 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
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