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Is Homosexuality a illness? And how to heal?

Kirran

Premium Member
This is bizarre. Having sex is like crack addiction? This would suggest that you have either never tried sex (and presumably not cocaine base either), or, if you have, that your experience with sexual addiction is well outside the normal parameters for human beings.

Tried both, didn't find much similarity.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
that's catholic teaching, not all christians think like that. besides, if you were the parent of a gay son and wanted him to have children in the traditional way, you might authorize intervention to make him transgender in mind at least so that he could still have children.

I am no expert, but I don't think that gender reassignment surgery for males transitioning to female is at an advanced enough stage to create a uterus. This solution is probably coming down the road. But no (Western; Iranian perhaps) physician would approve of a transition for a gay patient who did not have persistent and well documented gender dysphoria.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
This is bizarre. Having sex is like crack addiction? This would suggest that you have either never tried sex (and presumably not cocaine base either), or, if you have, that your experience with sexual addiction is well outside the normal parameters for human beings.
I've tried both too, and I've gotta say that they couldn't be any more different. One is healthy, fun, and exciting. The other is destructive, short-lasting, and makes you want more when you are done. After sex, the last thing I want at that time is more sex.
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
lol. Are you serious with this? Do you actually think that anyone who is sexually active is addicted to sex and always looking for their "next fix"? I would suggest giving it a try, because your view on the subject is obviously based on ignorance. To most sexually active people, it isn't a first priority or anything close to that. It's great, don't get me wrong, but it is also physically healthy, as long as it is done safely. I wouldn't judge others on something you obviously know absolutely nothing about.
Well said as usual Leibowde. Love with my partner was an extension of the love we felt for each other but it was not at the least the only thing that we did to express our love. I cannot imagine someone abstaining from sex with a person they truly love because they are afraid of living up to God's ideals.
 

JoStories

Well-Known Member
that's catholic teaching, not all christians think like that. besides, if you were the parent of a gay son and wanted him to have children in the traditional way, you might authorize intervention to make him transgender in mind at least so that he could still have children.
If I were the parent of a gay son, I would love that son for who he is, whether he has children or not. It is not up to me to decide if he wants children for pete's sake. I might authorize???? Where is the choice of the son? You speak as though the parent has the right to dictate their children's choices in life.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
that's catholic teaching, not all christians think like that. besides, if you were the parent of a gay son and wanted him to have children in the traditional way, you might authorize intervention to make him transgender in mind at least so that he could still have children.
Please educate yourself about gender dysphoria and a gender transition. Once we transition we can't have our own biological kids, not unless sperm/ovum are preserved, and even then it still requires a cis-woman to become pregnant and give birth.
And you can't make someone transgender. Intersexual individuals are very typically assigned female at birth, and it is not uncommon, at all, for them to experience dysphoria over this. David Reimer suffered a botched circumcision, was assigned female because of that, but he still identified as male and transitioned back to male.
Gender identity is hardwired. You can't just change it. As I said, you need to read material from people who work with those who have gender dysphoria, and not someone who is a very extreme outlier whose case brings up many questions concerning the ethics of the doctor who handled the case.
And you will not find a single doctor who will intervene in such a way. It is unethical from a medical perspective, and would guarantee the doctor would loose their license to practice and would probably never work as a doctor again for doing such a thing. And, as someone who has gender dysphoria and knows the pains of having the body of one gender and the brain of the other, I would be first in line to advocate such an intervention be classified as child abuse.
 
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sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
gays have uncontrollable lust.
No. They don't. Not any more so than straight people.
hence they are becoming women with the help of religion who knock out the gays before injecting them with trans hormones.
Are they stolen by grey aliens antecedent to being knocked out by the religious fanatics? I suppose all this takes place in secret government underground facilities? And the Illuminati is at the center of this activity, right?
 

chevron1

Active Member
Are they stolen by grey aliens antecedent to being knocked out by the religious fanatics? I suppose all this takes place in secret government underground facilities? And the Illuminati is at the center of this activity, right?

you want proof of the illuminati, don't you? that's because they are implicated in everything including amish life. do u think the illuminati are onto the amish? they are the best kind of people who know how ride a buggy in the snow.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
yes you can turn them transgender. that's what stephenie robinson's doctor did to him.
One example that is a very extreme outlier, complete with other disorders and ethical concerns, does not make for proof or evidence. If someone identifies as one gender, and they do not experience gender dysphoria, you can't make them identify as the other. Your one example proves nothing, as their is also the case of David Reimer where things went wrong and despite efforts he did not identify as female, and many intersexuals who face problems because they were assigned female at birth but they do not identify as female.
 

chevron1

Active Member
One example that is a very extreme outlier, complete with other disorders and ethical concerns, does not make for proof or evidence. If someone identifies as one gender, and they do not experience gender dysphoria, you can't make them identify as the other.

one example is sometimes all we get of malfeasence in this world. if you ignore it, then you are ignoring something very ugly going on behind closed doors. this is far more important than david any day.
 

sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
you want proof of the illuminati, don't you? that's because they are implicated in everything including amish life. do u think the illuminati are onto the amish? they are the best kind of people who know how ride a buggy in the snow.
Can't have proof of something that doesn't exist -- like grey aliens, the illuminati and religious conspiracies that force sex changes on unsuspecting people.
 

chevron1

Active Member
Can't have proof of something that doesn't exist -- like grey aliens, the illuminati and religious conspiracies that force sex changes on unsuspecting people.

in the 1980s at the limelight nightclub, they put pills in the kool aid and told people it was free to drink. those pills included hormone therapy for men. the documentary on the limelight which has since died is available for download if you like.
 
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