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Why "G-d" instead of "God"?

rosends

Well-Known Member
  • Isaiah 46:9 El is nothing like the Elohim.
  • YHVH doesn't have the same qualities as the deity God.
  • YHVH is often put as an Elohim Biblically.
  • ;)
"Remember the first things of old, that I am God and there is no other; I am God and there is none like Me." The Hebrew is very clear.
זִכְרוּ רִאשֹׁנוֹת מֵעוֹלָם כִּי אָנֹכִי אֵל וְאֵין עוֹד אֱלֹהִים וְאֶפֶס כָּמוֹנִי:

I'm not sure where you get your reading from.
 

Harmonious

Well-Known Member
Maybe unless it is staff, how would someone have access to delete God online in this forum?
Whether it's staff, or old threads disappear, or the entire forum shuts down and is erased... People plan for these eventualities.

But more frequently, people quote other people. If the part you aren't quoting has the word "God" in it, the poster copying and pasting would erase the word God.

So... the word God gets erased.

Also, something Im curious of. God has no name?
God has lots of names. I disagree with wizanda - all of the names in Tanach that refer to God only refer to ONE being.

The thing is, we try not to use them for no good reason. I have seen and heard people use the name "El Shaddai", but in order not to use the proper name, Jews might say "Kel Shakkai." There are lots of names we change out of respect, so that we don't use God's name in vain.

Wouldnt it be safe to say God is a word we use to represent the Creator but if destroyed does not mean we are destroying Gods name but the written title of it? It is similar to tearing up my name and assuming that affects me as if "Carlita" is who I am not the name that represents me for conversation sake.

I understand and respect why it is done. Just a question that poped in my head.
I also agree with RabbiO's assessment of Rav Yosef Soloveitchik's thought. The word God, to Jews, is a placeholder. It isn't a "proper" name, as it were. It is a description.

I have also heard that Jews hailing from Muslim countries will call God "Allah" colloquially, the way most English speakers use God. But then again, when in prayer, they use the Hebrew names as they come up liturgically.
 
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Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Nice reply. Thank you.
Whether it's staff, or old threads disappear, or the entire forum shuts down and is erased... People plan for these eventualities.

But more frequently, people quote other people. If the part you aren't quoting has the word "God" in it, the poster copying and pasting would erase the word God

That makes sense.

The thing is, we try not to use them for no good reason. I have seen and heard people use the name "El Shaddai", but in order not to use the proper name, Jews might say "Kel Shakkai." There are lots of names we change out of respect, so that we don't use God's name in vain.

What is the proper name for God? It would seem to be appropriate to not write the whole name of God's appropriate name and not the placeholder? I.e. J-sus to refer to God (Christian pov) and God not G-d because it isnt God's personal name but a placeholder for it.

Would this apply to Jewish thought given God has many personal names?

The word God, to Jews, is a placeholder. It isn't a "proper" name, as it were. It is a description
True. I think that is why it is odd for some people. It is like saying S-e to refer to me and using Carlita only in prayer and worship. She is not my personal name but a placeholder or pronoun. Why would it be dashed?
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Why would i need to explain that, study what is there in Hebrew and you'd see it is blatant....The only thing that isn't, is the modern day Jewish understanding. o_O

I am vaguely familiar with Scripture. As far as I can tell, it's the same Deity, just different titles. I've even argued this somewhat successfully in relation to Genesis, and some other instances of Deity title differences. I have personally found no discrepancy.
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
In think its just a sneaky way around it, G-d, is the same as God, I heard that some people tear the toilet paper into usable pieces so that on the Sabbath their not working at tearing the toilet paper into strips, there are all sorts of inventions made to get around their God's law concerning the Sabbath.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
Would this apply to Jewish thought given God has many personal names?
Judaism teaches that G-d has no personal names. G-d is not a person that he can be delineated and defined by a personal name. e have titles that call forth different aspects or traits (mercy, justice, power, holiness etc) and while we throw about the word "name" none is actually a proper name for G-d.
 

rosends

Well-Known Member
In think its just a sneaky way around it, G-d, is the same as God, I heard that some people tear the toilet paper into usable pieces so that on the Sabbath their not working at tearing the toilet paper into strips, there are all sorts of inventions made to get around their God's law concerning the Sabbath.
Finding ways to perform actions without breaking laws is not "getting around" laws. If the TSA says I can't take anything larger than 3 ounces on a plane, is it "getting around the law" to take a few containers which hold 2 ounces each? Or is it just understanding how the law applies and not violating it?
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Finding ways to perform actions without breaking laws is not "getting around" laws. If the TSA says I can't take anything larger than 3 ounces on a plane, is it "getting around the law" to take a few containers which hold 2 ounces each? Or is it just understanding how the law applies and not violating it?
To me it does seem that way, but of course you wouldn't agree.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
Why would i need to explain that, study what is there in Hebrew and you'd see it is blatant....The only thing that isn't, is the modern day Jewish understanding. o_O

But I'm not familiar with your particular view. The titles would not indicate the 'differences', if there are differences. That is what I am saying. So I am not sure why you are delineating the titles.
 

Harmonious

Well-Known Member
In think its just a sneaky way around it, G-d, is the same as God, I heard that some people tear the toilet paper into usable pieces so that on the Sabbath their not working at tearing the toilet paper into strips, there are all sorts of inventions made to get around their God's law concerning the Sabbath.
Actually, it's not a matter "getting around" our laws concerning the Sabbath. There is no prohibition against using toilet paper. The prohibition is on tearing ON THE SABBATH. So... If we tear it before hand, we just make it usable for the Sabbath.

And for the record... There is nothing sneaky about G-d vs. God. It is merely a difference of opinion. As you might have noticed, I have no problem spelling out God.
 

Unveiled Artist

Veteran Member
Judaism teaches that G-d has no personal names. G-d is not a person that he can be delineated and defined by a personal name. e have titles that call forth different aspects or traits (mercy, justice, power, holiness etc) and while we throw about the word "name" none is actually a proper name for G-d.
Which makes me wonder, but different topic, what is the nature of God from Jewish perspective. Since there is no "Jesus undertone" in Judaism, Id assume His nature would be a bit different than in christianity.
 

Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Why "G-d" instead of "God"?

Why?

I've always wondered as well.

I can understand not using a Holy name of God out of respect, or not using such a name because of the ancient idea of power associated with a God's name, however -

god isn't a name, just as deity, or theos isn't.

So I don't understand this. :shrug:

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Ingledsva

HEATHEN ALASKAN
Judaism teaches that G-d has no personal names. G-d is not a person that he can be delineated and defined by a personal name. e have titles that call forth different aspects or traits (mercy, justice, power, holiness etc) and while we throw about the word "name" none is actually a proper name for G-d.

I thought there was a text in Tanakh which says I am ______- the God of your fathers, and tell it to the others?

YHVH is put in that spot - which is the respectful form of not using the actual name.

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