Fair enough! Of course a god could exist, I fervently hope it doesn't.
I believe that He is more friend to us than we are to ourselves and often weeps at our plight but He cannot interfere as He given us free will to choose our own path.
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Fair enough! Of course a god could exist, I fervently hope it doesn't.
I believe that He is more friend to us than we are to ourselves and often weeps at our plight but He cannot interfere as He given us free will to choose our own path.
That sounds like an excuse for its behaviour in the Bible, which is worse than bad.
Which behaviour are you referring to?
The flood for starters, getting a young girl pregnant before she married her intended for the purpose of having him die to atone for the mistakes its so called 'father' made when creating us humans. If those stories had any credibility, which to be frank they don't, it doesn't show god in a very good light.
I agree that it doesn’t make much sense from that perspective at all.
My understanding is things like the flood were not actual events but symbolic. If you look at the essence of what Jesus actually taught : the beatitudes, love one another, forgiveness, to help the poor and earlier on in the Bible things like thou shalt not kill or steal and so on, this is the essence of the Bible.
Later people wove all sorts of things around Him and instead of focusing on His teachings of love began worshipping His personality.
The reason religion is renewed by God is because in this world everything withers, decays and eventually dies so it needs to be renewed again.
Since Christ other Teachers I believe, have appeared but people have unfortunately failed to move on into the new scientific age so are engulfed in many superstitious understandings setting aside the true essence of what God teaches which is to love and be kind to all life.
If Jesus actually said the things that the Bible quotes, which is open to question, some of them where sensible and others things much less so. But then he was a human being with many faults and failings just like the rest of us.
My religion does not really go into any detail about heaven, it only says that heaven is a state of the soul who is close to God (which refers to the heart, which is the seat of the soul, not a physical proximity to God). Because we can be close to God in both worlds, we can be in heaven in this material world and in the spiritual world, where our soul goes after our physical body dies. The brief three minute video below is a brief depiction of the journey of the soul but points out how the nature of the soul and the afterlife is a mystery that can never be described.If a heaven actually exists what you is your idea of what it would be like?
Just the usual, Beer Volcanoes and Stripper Factories.If a heaven actually exists what you is your idea of what it would be like?
I wrote this a few years ago.
Heaven
St Peter was showing a bunch of new recruits the delights of heaven. There were things to suit all tastes, even a gay bar. Most popular were the wine tasting sessions, which Jesus had set up, he was particularly proud of his Chateau Heaven vintage, being of course an expert in viticulture.
A carriage, pulled by eight white horses, stopped beside the group, and out got the most beautiful woman they had ever seen. St Peter bowed low and introduced her, "This is God"! The recruits gasped, "Don't worry, you will soon get used to the idea", she grinned!
At the end of the tour the recruits were shown a tin shack from which emanated the sound of hoarse discordant singing. St Peter explained, " That is reserved for 'born again' Christians who think they are the only inhabitants of heaven, we don't like to disappoint them so they can sing God's praises for all eternity. One puzzled new arrival queried how they reacted to God being a woman. "Ah" said St Peter, "Now that is our very cunning plan. Not everyone can enter into the delights of heaven immediately if they have been very bad whilst on earth. They must serve a term playing God for the 'born agains’, the length of which depends on the wickedness of their crimes. As the actor is always hidden in a blaze of light, they are none the wiser when a change over takes place. However heinous the crime, the perpetrator is deemed to have served their sentence after a few Millennia of listening to that lot 'singing God's praises!"
RJG
What you just described is an apt description of hell....Just the usual, Beer Volcanoes and Stripper Factories.
Hell has beer volcanoes and stripper factories too, but the beer is skunky and the strippers have STD's.What you just described is an apt description of hell....
It might be more fun than heaven though....
I picture it being kind of like RF but with more food and drink. And eternal.
Atheist view on heaven
I think it would be a place were all my desires were met and whatever I did It would be morally right
Is there a reason that wild orgies would not be "morally right" in heaven?I believe that will never happen. Heaven is a place where God only allows what actually is morally right.
God is not part of my desires....poooffI believe that will never happen. Heaven is a place where God only allows what actually is morally right.
God is not part of my desires....poooff
Did God know what was morally right, because it was so? or did God decide what was morally right and how did he know?