Will he use nuclear weapons?

[lewisnotmiller]

The decoy ploy of pulling back to sell nuclear threat? Maybe. Fake it till you make it, right?

But again, that has Putin not actually using them.

Which I'd say is the most likely scenario. But I'd also say that engaging in brinkmanship with him is dangerous.

As for Ukraine getting overzealous in a counter-offensive, I think they would be more than happy to call it quits once they reach original pre-war boarder.

You'd hope.
But regardless, Putin will be looking to save face and 'force' them to stand down. His own position is less secure than at any time I can remember.

 

[Twilight Hue]

No he won't. All the chatter about it is just an October distraction from discussing important matters such as inflation, uncontrolled immigration and other failures of those in power before the midterm elections.

Yea. It's tiresome so much effort is focused and concentrated on foreign affairs and the domestic side gets largely, a deaf ear and poo poo'ed away.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

No he won't. All the chatter about it is just an October distraction from discussing important matters such as inflation, uncontrolled immigration and other failures of those in power before the midterm elections.

Erm...we're not all Americans...

 

[sun rise]

Out of curiosity what is the assumed nuclear target? Putin wants Ukraine. So nuking Kiev is like cutting off your nose to spite your face. Will he nuke European backers, if so, which? All of them? What are the prevailing winds? Will he get the radiation cloud from the fallout? That leaves the US, which could respond city for city. Perhaps he would bank on a liberal Democrat president being unable to take millions of innocent lives and not retaliate if Putin hits something small, like Guam.

You've somehow missed all the media speculation? That's quite some feat. Tactical nukes to destroy part of the Ukraine army.

 

[sun rise]

No he won't. All the chatter about it is just an October distraction from discussing important matters such as inflation, uncontrolled immigration and other failures of those in power before the midterm elections.

Upholding freedom where-ever its threatened is not a concern of yours. It is for me. It is my chief concern to stop a tyrant from seizing another country's territory, committing war crimes and threatening to use nukes.

 

[F1fan]

Given that the war hasn't exactly gone as Putin expected and as he might get more and more desperate, do you think that he will eventually use nuclear weapons?

The question is: if putin orders the use of nuclear weapons will the generals do it? putin is in a unique position in all this as it is his nuts on the line. The generals can get off the hook for just following military orders. Obeying an order to use nukes? I suspect the generals can see they are losing, and this will lead to a bigger loss.

 

[sun rise]

Yea. It's tiresome so much effort is focused and concentrated on foreign affairs and the domestic side gets largely, a deaf ear and poo poo'ed away.

And if the right takes the House, all we'll hear is "impeach Biden" for the next 2 years just like we heard get rid of Obamacare (how did that turn out).

 

[Nimos]

The question is: if putin orders the use of nuclear weapons will the generals do it? putin is in a unique position in all this as it is his nuts on the line. The generals can get off the hook for just following military orders. Obeying an order to use nukes? I suspect the generals can see they are losing, and this will lead to a bigger loss.

Sure, but it depends on how "devoted" they are. I mean if Hitler had gotten them I think he would have used them.

As it is now, Ukraine is not going to negotiate with him about peace, for good reason. Nothing that comes out of that man's mouth can be trusted. So Ukraine are going to keep fighting with help from the west. As it is now, we are not stopping with giving them weapons and Russia seems to be in a fairly poor state when it comes to its military.

Given that he has been forced to draft 300000 and they are fleeing the country, there is a good chance that these people are getting sent there as nothing but cannon fodder, to be honest.

I highly doubt that they will get any decent training and I also doubt that their morale is especially high. Especially because I don't think half of them even know why they are invading Ukraine or even whether they truly believe what Putin is telling them. He can't hide the truth forever. So my thought is that he will get desperate at some point, as things start to go downhill even more.

And Putin needs to win this, he can't lose to Ukraine at this time, that is simply not an option, because the Russian people would lynch him in that case. He needs to keep the illusion alive that he is the "good" guy. But again, he can't do that forever, at some point the Russian people will wake up and figure out that they have been told a lie. And I doubt the Russian people are any more interested in getting shot and blown up for no good reason, just as anyone else is. The big question is how much time it will take for the Russians to add two and two together and take responsibility for what this maniac is doing, he is single-handedly destroying or bringing Russia back into the dark ages.

Putin and those people in charge might be so devoted to whatever nonsense they are doing, that they might be willing to go all the way.

 

[InChrist]

Given that the war hasn't exactly gone as Putin expected and as he might get more and more desperate, do you think that he will eventually use nuclear weapons?

Not sure. I expect he could, but ultimately think God is restraining all out nuclear war. I just finished reading this...

“There seems no major concern within the ranks of Western diplomacy that Putin might initiate the world blowing up in nuclear conflict.

All of this started me pondering about the prophetic warning given through Paul the apostle.

“But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you. For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night. For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.” (1 Thessalonians 5:1–3)

Why, I ask myself, is there no cry for peace and safety, like in the days of yore? There should be. But I find in my observations that the people of the US seem oblivious to Putin’s threats for the most part.

For those of you who were alive and old enough to remember during the Cuban Missile Crisis, you will recall how it was a nerve-wracking time. Now, such threat seems just another ho-hum news story.

My own thinking is that an all-out nuclear exchange just won’t happen this side of the Rapture of the Church. Such a scenario simply doesn’t fit God’s prophetic Word from the pre-Trib view of Bible prophecy. Such a monstrous event would certainly take the world out of the time of “business as usual” that is indicated by Jesus’ prophecy as given in Luke 17: 26–30, as I’ve often parsed in these columns.”

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[Shaul]

Erm...we're not all Americans...

Don't I know it.

 

[Shaul]

Upholding freedom where-ever its threatened is not a concern of yours. It is for me. It is my chief concern to stop a tyrant from seizing another country's territory, committing war crimes and threatening to use nukes.

Quite a leap you made. Of course, it is silliness. If you really want to stop the tyrant don't make up stuff. He has done enough without the unfounded scare mongering about nuclear weapons which will not be used.

 

[Father Heathen]

Erm...we're not all Americans...

It's like how they blame Biden for inflation, gas prices, etc. despite it being a global thing.
U.S. conservatives are very insular.

 

[lewisnotmiller]

Don't I know it.

It's because I spell 'colour' with a 'u', isn't it...

 

[Shaul]

It's like how they blame Biden for inflation, gas prices, etc. despite it being a global thing.
U.S. conservatives are very insular.

Or how liberals give Biden a complete pass on inflation despite his complete bungling. All those trillions he spent were just "a global thing".

 

[Twilight Hue]

And if the right takes the House, all we'll hear is "impeach Biden" for the next 2 years just like we heard get rid of Obamacare (how did that turn out).

It turned out fine. They got rid of that insipid forced socialist mandate on people. Mission accomplished in my book.

I hope Biden is impeached. Harris takes over and summarily destroys the nation and people probably won't vote democrat for a long long time.

 

[Father Heathen]

It turned out fine. They got rid of that insipid forced socialist mandate on people. Mission accomplished in my book.

I hope Biden is impeached. Harris takes over and summarily destroys the nation and people probably won't vote democrat for a long long time.

Where do the Acme anvils fit into your silly little fantasy?

 

[Father Heathen]

Or how liberals give Biden a complete pass on inflation despite his complete bungling. All those trillions he spent were just "a global thing".

I'm not a fan of Biden, and I certainly don't claim that he's perfect. However, he does have a long way to go before reaching react Trump level bad. Most criticisms from the right are laughably hypocritical.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Where do the Acme anvils fit into your silly little fantasy?

Right beside a president looking for the undead named Jackie, and a VP announcement of our lovely alliance with North Korea making people swell up in confidence and assurance that our nation is in excellent capable hands going forward.

You should contribute.

 

[sayak83]

Given that the war hasn't exactly gone as Putin expected and as he might get more and more desperate, do you think that he will eventually use nuclear weapons?

No. I do not think he or the elites in his inner circle want a violent death for themselves which will happen if he chooses to use that option.

 

[Wandering Monk]

I heard one analyst say that you only need to worry if Putin is NOT talking about nukes.