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Why Western nations should not donate to the third world

Discussion in 'Political Debates' started by Hammerheart, Jul 19, 2017.

  1. SabahTheLoner

    SabahTheLoner Master of the Art of Couch Potato Cuddles

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    Modern Satanism is very focused on the self, usually "rational self-interest". Most Luciferians usually live by "know thy self" and seek knowledge. Personally I'd expect many modern Satanists to not really care about other countries and most Luciferians to want to know a bit about other places but I can't speak for everyone. But this is a bit off topic.
     
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  2. Shimi

    Shimi Lupus Ovis Pelle Indutus

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    Africa is the most resource rich continent on this earth. The notion that Africa "lacks natural resources" even after colonialism is utterly ridiculous. Third world countries are underdeveloped for many, many reasons but "the soil not being fertile" is not exactly a prime factor. (Yes in the Sahara it is, I know.)

    As other commenters have noted, Africa has been home to various empire's throughout history. They flourished due to trade, natural resources, agriculture, etc.

    During the time of colonialism, the colonists focused on getting the native populations to farm cash crops. Thus, overtime the knowledge of how to farm actual food was lost.

    Somehow you managed to be right, yes, western aid in the form of food and medicine and what have you, increased the general population significantly. The problem is then that in order to sustain such a massive population and prevent starvation you have to continuously feed them. This is where western countries went wrong. Instead of building infrastructure and teaching the natives to farm for themselves they simply donate money and food which just grows the population some more and eventually when money dries up, leads to massive starvation.

    So yes, to some extent I agree with you but your reasoning and deduction is illogical, stupid, and was something any 5th grade could have corrected.

    Yes. Diversity and freedom reign supreme huh. Oh right so does rape, murder, war, starvation, and a host of other issues that don't sound very "heavenly" to me. And before I'm accused of being an ignorant westerner, I too have lived in Africa.
     
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  3. The Holy Bottom Burp

    The Holy Bottom Burp Active Member

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    It is the corruption and violence that I find most depressing in African nations, it would be good to see government with the genuine interests of the people at heart for once.

    No I don't agree with the OP that we shouldn't donate to Third World Countries; watch more people die to make a point? No, there is a huge disparity in wealth between the 1st world and the third world, of course we should help.

    I do agree that we need to do more to help them develop stable government and infrastructure, lets face it we haven't exactly treated Africans with much respect or care in the past, seems the least we can do to help them build a better future.
     
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  4. Hammerheart

    Hammerheart Well-Known Member

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    These minerals are taken and exploited by greedy individuals, from the aforementioned Christian missionaries to the governments of the nations themselves. Seeing as they exist in Africa, I think that the people as a whole are entitled to them.

    This thread turned into a huge ****storm fast. As for the "Luciferian" perspective, no it is not selfish. At least my interpretation isn't. I think that love is very important, but it should be under will rather than obligation, otherwise it is meaningless. Equally important is the question of whether said compassion is actually working to anyone's benifit or not. I see some have used this thread (or moreover, my post) as an excuse to generalize and single out certain religions as "selfish".

    Also, I am not blaning those who are recieving this money (provided that they are actual starving people and not some greedy scammers). I am blaming the governments, those who fail to view it from a more objective perspective etc. Honestly, these starving people probably deserve compensation from their backwards governments...
     
  5. Aupmanyav

    Aupmanyav Be your own guru

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    Perhaps there were a few leaders who could have helped some countries in Africa and could have been a beacon to others, but they were disliked by the corporations and capitalist countries, so they killed them. The name of Patrice Lumamba comes to mind. Zaire then had Mobutu for 32 years. Nelson Mandela did not get enough time, but he did make some difference in South Africa.
     
  6. Corvus

    Corvus Feathered eyeball connoisseur

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    This is one area at least that my beliefs in humanism and certain religious beliefs are concordant for a change.
     
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  7. Corvus

    Corvus Feathered eyeball connoisseur

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    Well, we all deserve respect for our human rights and dignity.
     
  8. Corvus

    Corvus Feathered eyeball connoisseur

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    Excellent.
     
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