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Why Did God Create Man?

Did Adam & Eve put a "kink" in God's plan?

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Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Why did God create man? Did Adam & Eve put a kink in His plan?
Great question. I believe that God created man with the noblest of purposes in mind. He put us here for our benefit, not His. His work and His glory is to bring to pass our immortality and eternal life, and we exist that we might have joy.

I absolutely do not believe that Adam and Eve put a kink in His plan. He knew exactly what He was doing when He placed them in the Garden and permitted the epitome of evil and deception to tempt them with godhood. They'd been told not to eat the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge of God and Evil, and yet here was this master manipulator promising them that they'd be "as God" for simply taking a bit of fruit! Having no understanding of good and evil at that point, it's hardly surprising that they feel victim to his tempting promise. If God had wanted Adam and Eve to remain forever in Eden, He could easily have almost guaranteed that that would happen. First of all, He didn't have to put the forbidden tree in the garden at all. And for those who might argue, "Well, he wanted to give them free will," I would answer, "He could have done so without stacking the odds so heavily against them." He'd told them not to eat the fruit. Had there been no one to try to talk them into it, the chances are very good they'd have never sucumbed.

Lucifer's presence and free rein to tempt them was something God knew would result in disobedience. Did He actually want them to disobey? Well... yes and no. No parent wants his children to be disobedient, but God's plan for them (and for their posterity, all the way down to us) was for them to be able to learn to discern between good and evil and by learning to chose the right path, return to His presence better off for the experience. People don't grow without challenges and trials. God knew that a temporary "fall" was necessary in order for a higher goal to be reached. Because He provided a Savior for them, they were able to go out into the world beyond Eden, knowing that all was not lost and that their Father in Heaven was doing what would ultimately be for their best good.
 

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
I do not know.
Ask Him if you please?
Really there is an asnwer to that and if you would just read Genesis
you would not need to ask such a basic question.
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Shouldn't this be under same faith debates? I mean, it seems obvious to me that Coyote created humanity to have something to laugh at that was even more ridiculous than himself. But that's probably not the answer you're looking for.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Great question. I believe that God created man with the noblest of purposes in mind. He put us here for our benefit, not His. His work and His glory is to bring to pass our immortality and eternal life, and we exist that we might have joy.

I absolutely do not believe that Adam and Eve put a kink in His plan. He knew exactly what He was doing when He placed them in the Garden and permitted the epitome of evil and deception to tempt them with godhood. They'd been told not to eat the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge of God and Evil, and yet here was this master manipulator promising them that they'd be "as God" for simply taking a bit of fruit! Having no understanding of good and evil at that point, it's hardly surprising that they feel victim to his tempting promise. If God had wanted Adam and Eve to remain forever in Eden, He could easily have almost guaranteed that that would happen. First of all, He didn't have to put the forbidden tree in the garden at all. And for those who might argue, "Well, he wanted to give them free will," I would answer, "He could have done so without stacking the odds so heavily against them." He'd told them not to eat the fruit. Had there been no one to try to talk them into it, the chances are very good they'd have never sucumbed.

Lucifer's presence and free rein to tempt them was something God knew would result in disobedience. Did He actually want them to disobey? Well... yes and no. No parent wants his children to be disobedient, but God's plan for them (and for their posterity, all the way down to us) was for them to be able to learn to discern between good and evil and by learning to chose the right path, return to His presence better off for the experience. People don't grow without challenges and trials. God knew that a temporary "fall" was necessary in order for a higher goal to be reached. Because He provided a Savior for them, they were able to go out into the world beyond Eden, knowing that all was not lost and that their Father in Heaven was doing what would ultimately be for their best good.

imagine what would have resulted if they chose to remain obedient to God's law... "You must not eat from the tree".... they would still be living in that beautiful garden surrounded by millions of their offspring and living with God's smile of approval and his association. Instead they got death and we got a world without God.

Oh if only....
 

Domenic

Active Member
The first book in the Bible, Genesis explains why he created man. All God has created is for his pleasure. The earth, and the whole universe are for his pleasure. he created man to care for it for him. That is why we were created. What do we get? Life, and a beautiful place to live. The earth will feed us. We will never be sick, age, or die. We will expand off into the whole universe and care for it for his pleasure. If any do not want to serve him in that position, he will un-create them. And yes, there are many who do not want to serve him, but want to be served by him.
 
imagine what would have resulted if they chose to remain obedient to God's law... "You must not eat from the tree".... they would still be living in that beautiful garden surrounded by millions of their offspring and living with God's smile of approval and his association. Instead they got death and we got a world without God.

Oh if only....

Why do you think God placed the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden and command them not to partake of it? And why the tree of life?
 

Saint Frankenstein

Wanderer From Afar
Premium Member
Yahweh seems like a child experimenting with its powers. He certainly acts like a petulant child when his toys don't do what he wants them to do. Eve and the Serpent be praised for giving us a choice to grow up and pursue our own destiny rather than be as ignorant children for eternity. The Garden was a deathly bore and a strangler of humanity's creative spirit.
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
Why do you think God placed the tree of knowledge of good and evil in the Garden and command them not to partake of it? And why the tree of life?

The tree of knowledge was simply a symbol of God's authority. He made the laws because as was the owner of everything he decided what was good and bad...ie, he set the rules and decided the laws. They were obliged to obey him as their sovereign.

The tree of life was symbolic of what they could have had. They could have lived forever if they remained obedient.
 
Great question. I believe that God created man with the noblest of purposes in mind. He put us here for our benefit, not His. His work and His glory is to bring to pass our immortality and eternal life, and we exist that we might have joy.

I absolutely do not believe that Adam and Eve put a kink in His plan. He knew exactly what He was doing when He placed them in the Garden and permitted the epitome of evil and deception to tempt them with godhood. They'd been told not to eat the fruit of The Tree of Knowledge of God and Evil, and yet here was this master manipulator promising them that they'd be "as God" for simply taking a bit of fruit! Having no understanding of good and evil at that point, it's hardly surprising that they feel victim to his tempting promise. If God had wanted Adam and Eve to remain forever in Eden, He could easily have almost guaranteed that that would happen. First of all, He didn't have to put the forbidden tree in the garden at all. And for those who might argue, "Well, he wanted to give them free will," I would answer, "He could have done so without stacking the odds so heavily against them." He'd told them not to eat the fruit. Had there been no one to try to talk them into it, the chances are very good they'd have never sucumbed.

Lucifer's presence and free rein to tempt them was something God knew would result in disobedience. Did He actually want them to disobey? Well... yes and no. No parent wants his children to be disobedient, but God's plan for them (and for their posterity, all the way down to us) was for them to be able to learn to discern between good and evil and by learning to chose the right path, return to His presence better off for the experience. People don't grow without challenges and trials. God knew that a temporary "fall" was necessary in order for a higher goal to be reached. Because He provided a Savior for them, they were able to go out into the world beyond Eden, knowing that all was not lost and that their Father in Heaven was doing what would ultimately be for their best good.

So God created man so that he could save him, and so that man might have joy? And to accomplish this, he devised his fall and redemption but gave him a choice as whether to be redeemed?
 

Brickjectivity

System Override
Staff member
Premium Member
Shouldn't this be under same faith debates? I mean, it seems obvious to me that Coyote created humanity to have something to laugh at that was even more ridiculous than himself. But that's probably not the answer you're looking for.
Yes, it should be in same faith debates since it presumes a Bible.
 
The first book in the Bible, Genesis explains why he created man. All God has created is for his pleasure. The earth, and the whole universe are for his pleasure. he created man to care for it for him. That is why we were created. What do we get? Life, and a beautiful place to live. The earth will feed us. We will never be sick, age, or die. We will expand off into the whole universe and care for it for his pleasure. If any do not want to serve him in that position, he will un-create them. And yes, there are many who do not want to serve him, but want to be served by him.

God's purpose in our creation was a selfish one? Does he take pleasure in watching the children of the earth suffer?
 
Yahweh seems like a child experimenting with its powers. He certainly acts like a petulant child when his toys don't do what he wants them to do. Eve and the Serpent be praised for giving us a choice to grow up and pursue our own destiny rather than be as ignorant children for eternity. The Garden was a deathly bore and a strangler of humanity's creative spirit.

So...God created us that we could pursue our own destiny and explore our creative spirit? What determines a man's destiny?
 

Faybull

Well-Known Member
Considering he has the power to stop it, it's reasonable to conclude it does indeed please him.
Pleasing to see us through the suffering, or pleasing to God for us suffering? Is there a way to remark of the difference of them?
 
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