And this is a subjective statement you've made. So probably not true then.
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Why are Incels such hateful people ?
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And this is a subjective statement you've made. So probably not true then.
Yeah I like boring and mundane most days. Quiet. Peace.
Massimo2002
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A boring and mundane life is a safe life.
Massimo2002
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But if I believe something to be objective then it goes from subjective to objective.
No because you still use the word belief.
Making it subjective and personal experience based. There is nothing wrong with subjectively experiencing the world. It's the only way we can really. Objectively doing or interacting with anything would literally make us have to be beside ourselves ie not us. You'd have to lose every ounce of personal life experience, and personality. And even the sciences don't do this.
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When parents give kids games and/or smart phones to get them out of their hair instead of spending time with them, the result is kids turn to them and rely on them because its what they are used to. That of course IMO
Massimo2002
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Well hopefully one day there will be a totally objective human without any emotions or subjective opinions whatsoever.
I woe the day it ever occurs. No such thing should exist.
Koldo
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1)It made dating easier to homosexual men.
2)Heterosexual shy men have an easier time flirting online.
3)Handsome and/or rich men have access to more women.
I have also heard that this whole thing is much more of a problem in the USA than in Brazil, for example. Can't confirm though.
Koldo
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The group is diverse enough that multiple different explanations will fit. It includes both the shy teenager with low self-steem suffering from social anxiety disorder and the ultra-conservative broke dude that can't find a virgin wife willing to be his maid.
*Shrugs*
Dunno what to tell you, mate. I have very few dramas in terms of 'confusion and mental illness'.
Subjectivity matches pretty neatly with what I see in the world. Objective truth, not so much.
Massimo2002
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I didn't say that everyone who is a sbjectivist is mentally ill but all lot of delusional mentally ill people are sujectivists.
I think you're just wildly speculating there. I asked my wife about it, she found it a pretty surprising pov.
(She works in forensic mental health)
She wanted to know whether you were talking about organic mental illness or personality disorders. Also mentioned we have major issues amongst refugee populations to Australia who overwhelmingly believe in an objective truth and a creator. They aren't mentally ill due to this belief, but due to traumatic histories.
Massimo2002
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I am talking more about organic mental disorders but I guess personality disorders apply too. And the refugees problem sounds more like a political gripe.
Massimo2002
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I mean that your comment about refugees sounds more political than about anything to do with mental health.
That's a pretty ignorant thing to say.
I know you don't know me very well, even in an online sense, but what POSSIBLE reason do you have to suggest that, apart from your own bias?
Massimo2002
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What bias do I have ? And how is it an ignorant thing to say ? Refugees are a political issue I mean yes you can help them with mental health but I still think that they are more of a political topic than a mental health issues topic.
We all have biases, mate, but to get from where our discussion was to 'its a political issue' is some sort of leap.
So...refugees are a political issue, yes. But they are (obviously I would have thought) not ONLY a political issue. The very reason people are refugees is that they have faced trauma, displacement and hardship in their lives.
I've grown up in a society where I can get healthcare, education and a relative environment of safety. Many of these people have come from environments of war, poverty, and distress. These things impact on their mental and physical health (in general terms).
My wife has spent her entire professional life caring for and dealing with people with mental health, and since moving into forensic roles many years ago, more specifically people who have come into contact with our legal system. She has almost no interest in the politics involved, apart from a strong opinion that mental health services are underfunded.
However, if your response to me suggesting that refugees have high incidents of mental health issues is some sort of political comment, I don't know what to tell you other than to stop and think before commenting.
Understanding the mental health and help-seeking behaviours of refugees
This short article presents a summary of the research on the mental health and help-seeking behaviours of refugees and what works to support them.
Reducing refugees to political capital is something politicians do. We don't all need to be so incapable of walking and chewing gum at the same time.
And if you perceived it as rude I apologize. It was meant to be for self reflection, not as an accusation.