Who is Jesus?

[Darkforbid]

THAT may be the only smart thing they every did . . . what a bloody, evil, mess that OT is!

And humanity isn't?

 

[Harel13]

THAT may be the only smart thing they every did . . . what a bloody, evil, mess that OT is!

Sooo, what you're saying is that Jesus said: Keep the OT, then Christians said: Darn, it's too hard, we have no idea how those Jews do it and we don't want to ask them, so we won't do it. Is that it?

 

[rrobs]

Sure.


In this hypothetical, I think it would depend which sort of Christian I was.

There are denominations that proclaim Jesus as God and some that proclaim that he definitely is not God. Presumably, I would have chosen my denomination based on whether I accept its belief system.

Sounds logical. Thanks!

 

[EtuMalku]

Sooo, what you're saying is that Jesus said: Keep the OT, then Christians said: Darn, it's too hard, we have no idea how those Jews do it and we don't want to ask them, so we won't do it. Is that it?

More along the lines of; 'wow, that murderous, vile, jealous, god of the OT cannot possibly be our warm and fluffy god of the NT . . . so kids, don't look at the OT stuff, it'll give you nightmares.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Doesn't it seem more like Christianity did away with the Feminine Energy of prior 'pagan' theologies? Wouldn't the trinity of Father - Mother - Son (child) make more sense?

What is masculine and feminine energy? Energy is energy

 

[rrobs]

No. The NT defines Christianity. Jews are aligned only with what Christians call the OT.

I understand. Still, Trinitarians claim that both the NT & OT say Jesus is God. My understanding is that Jews (for the most part) would never say that. True?

 

[EtuMalku]

And humanity isn't?

Is it? I like to think 'humanity' has progressed in many ways, and certainly in improved ways from the biblical ages . . . egads!

 

[Harel13]

More along the lines of; 'wow, that murderous, vile, jealous, god of the OT cannot possibly be our warm and fluffy god of the NT . . . so kids, don't look at the OT stuff, it'll give you nightmares.

So for what purpose did you previously write this:

However, Jesus is stated in the NT that all of the OT must be followed and not one word changed.

?

 

[EtuMalku]

What is masculine and feminine energy? Energy is energy

Yin Yang . . . simply put.

 

[Harel13]

I understand. Still, Trinitarians claim that both the NT & OT say Jesus is God. My understanding is that Jews (for the most part) would never say that. True?

Yes. The only Jews who would say that are converts to Christianity and maybe some sects of Messianic Judaism.

 

[EtuMalku]

So for what purpose did you previously write this:
?

You'll have to put it in context to whose post I was replying to. Just because I post something doesn't necessarily mean I condone or condemn it.

 

[rrobs]

How can you 'know' something about something which is a fabrication in the first place?

That's my sentiment.

 

[Harel13]

You'll have to put it in context to whose post I was replying to. Just because I post something doesn't necessarily mean I condone or condemn it.

You were replying to my post...on this thread...just a few minutes ago..!

 

[EtuMalku]

You were replying to my post...on this thread...just a few minutes ago..!

. . . and?

 

[Harel13]

. . . and?

So I'm trying to figure out what you were trying to say..?

 

[rrobs]

Yes. The only Jews who would say that are converts to Christianity and maybe some sects of Messianic Judaism.

It seems that the Jews who first accepted Jesus did not think he was God. That idea didn't enter the picture until the Gentiles were converted and brought their Platonic ideas with them. At least that's the conclusion I've come to after studying the matter.

 

[Harel13]

It seems that the Jews who first accepted Jesus did not think he was God. That idea didn't enter the picture until the Gentiles were converted and brought their Platonic ideas with them. At least that's the conclusion I've come to after studying the matter.

Yeah, seems so. All of that Council of Nicea stuff.

 

[Spirit of Light]

Yin Yang . . . simply put.

Yin and Yang can be + and - too, does not mean it is feminine or masculine it only means the opposite.

 

[EtuMalku]

So I'm trying to figure out what you were trying to say..?

Just pointing things out . . .

 

[Harel13]

Just pointing things out . . .

Right...okay.