What would it take for you to change your faith to another?

[sojourner]

Really? A religious guy trying to give debate lessons?

This is like Paris Hilton giving a lecture on Astrophysics.

I arm ALL my opinions with facts, like the links I provide. You should read them.

I also follow exact guidelines of rhetoric and debate polices by invalidating your posts with, well, MORE facts, and showing you where your claims are Straw Man arguments. Like how I showed you that your biblical prophets needed no god to learn about a spherical Earth. I gave you links showing this.

You sound like somebody who is frustrated from getting whacked around in a debate, complaining about unfair tactics, When indeed anybody reading our exchanges can see what is REALLY going on. And that is, you are simply being bested, by deluded friend.

Just man up and admit it.

Really? An atheist trying to give theology lessons? This is like a hoarder giving clean lessons. Facts are not always necessary in a theological debate, and it's nonsensical to insist that all theological arguments supply corresponding facts. You sound like somebody who's really frustrated because he's trying to use a hammer to do brain surgery. What's REALLY going on is that you're hoping to negate theological arguments with scientific arguments, which is like trying to negate apples with oranges. In a theological debate, you're easily bested, my deluded friend.

 

[Jonathan Ainsley Bain]

For most of my life I considered myself to be something of a Pantheist.
I had read a large variety of religious texts, being most inspired by the
Bhagavad Gita, and the Nordic Skald as well as Greek mythology.

I had always considered religion to be a variety of ethics which used
mythical stories to teach moral codes. The school I attended had a
particularly nasty version of the narrative of Christianity as its main
thrust of such argument. Apartheid South Africa was not a fun place
to be for non-racist white people.

I had been taught that the Bible endorsed all sorts of such bad ideas,
such as racism and corporal punishment so I had very little place for it
in my schema of things. Had I expected a personal experience of
a real spirit with which to commune, I would have anticipated Brigid,
or Thor, or Shiva. Perhaps Hermes, Ares, Athena or Poseidon.

And yet,
I have spoken with John the Baptist 3 times, Jesus twice.
And I glimpsed the Almighty once.

I could not ever have become a Christian without such positivist
experiences, having seriously studied Psychology and Philosophy
to post-grad level. I would expect to be able to explain away
those experiences using psychology - and if someone else had told
me this story before I had those experiences - I would have done
just that.

I have never been part of any church or religious group - have never
even been inside the same church twice. I have hardly had any
conversations with priests.

I did not at first take the experiences as completely real, even though
they felt entirely real. I analysed the situation from every angle in
Psychology and Philosophy that I could.

I am now 45 years old, and the first event occurred at age 22.
The 2nd event was 10 years ago, and only after that did I begin
to conclude the experiences as real - more than 12 years after
first speaking with John the Baptist. I wish I had not doubted so much.

I wasted so much time doubting. Still, it was part of a plan.
Here the miracle of my story begins:

http://www.flight-light-and-spin.com/dream.htm

 

[anonymous9887]

For most of my life I considered myself to be something of a Pantheist.
I had read a large variety of religious texts, being most inspired by the
Bhagavad Gita, and the Nordic Skald as well as Greek mythology.

I had always considered religion to be a variety of ethics which used
mythical stories to teach moral codes. The school I attended had a
particularly nasty version of the narrative of Christianity as its main
thrust of such argument. Apartheid South Africa was not a fun place
to be for non-racist white people.

I had been taught that the Bible endorsed all sorts of such bad ideas,
such as racism and corporal punishment so I had very little place for it
in my schema of things. Had I expected a personal experience of
a real spirit with which to commune, I would have anticipated Brigid,
or Thor, or Shiva. Perhaps Hermes, Ares, Athena or Poseidon.

And yet,
I have spoken with John the Baptist 3 times, Jesus twice.
And I glimpsed the Almighty once.

I could not ever have become a Christian without such positivist
experiences, having seriously studied Psychology and Philosophy
to post-grad level. I would expect to be able to explain away
those experiences using psychology - and if someone else had told
me this story before I had those experiences - I would have done
just that.

I have never been part of any church or religious group - have never
even been inside the same church twice. I have hardly had any
conversations with priests.

I did not at first take the experiences as completely real, even though
they felt entirely real. I analysed the situation from every angle in
Psychology and Philosophy that I could.

I am now 45 years old, and the first event occurred at age 22.
The 2nd event was 10 years ago, and only after that did I begin
to conclude the experiences as real - more than 12 years after
first speaking with John the Baptist. I wish I had not doubted so much.

I wasted so much time doubting. Still, it was part of a plan.
Here the miracle of my story begins:

http://www.flight-light-and-spin.com/dream.htm

Wow that's awesome if you experienced that. I haven't seen it, so I base myself on the scriptures. As for Christianity being in bad light, I think a lot of it has to do with the misrepresentation of the scriptures and them being twisted by false teachers.

 

[Norman]

Yes you said nothing can change your faith. But so I'm assuming you have done a lot of research on the mormans.
Have you looked into the new findings regarding the book of Abraham?

Norman: Hi Paul, no offense, I believe your question about the book of Abraham should be asked in the @LDS DIR I do not want to take away from your OP. Thanks