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What is the Gospel?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by KOG, Feb 9, 2006.

  1. KOG

    KOG New Member

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    I am doing a project for a college class and I was curious to know what others perceive the Gospel to be. Mark 1:14,15 says ..Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of God, and saying the time is fulfilled and the kingdom of God is at hand; repent and believe in the gospel. Believe in what gospel? I would like to hear any thoughts on this. Thank you.
     
  2. Aqualung

    Aqualung Tasty

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    The gospel is the good news. It is the news that Jesus came to earth and died for our sins and that by doing certain things (like gettting baptised) we can get saved or even exhalted.
     
  3. dawny0826

    dawny0826 Mother Heathen

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    As seen in my trusty Corel WordPerfect Dictionary...

    The Gospel is the "good news" about Christ's resurrection....that in Christ...we have everlasting life.

    And the gospels of the Bible are Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. This is where you find the bulk of scripture where Christ "speaks".
     
  4. KOG

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    So do you not believe that the kingdom of God has anything to do with the gospel? Jesus proclaimed the gospel of the kingdom (Matt 9:35). Jesus came to preach the "euangelion" the gospel. The kingdom of God was the primary focus of his teaching. If Jesus came to preach the gospel and taught almost exclusivly on the kingdom, doesen't that mean that the kingdom is the gospel?
     
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    dawny0826 Mother Heathen

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    Well, the only way TO the kingdom of God is via Jesus Christ...who is the very heart of the Gospel...He Is the Good News!

    So, it all intertwines.:D
     
  6. Aqualung

    Aqualung Tasty

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    I'll take this from the Bible dictionary included with every LDS footnoted version of the bible:
     
  7. KOG

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    If we go to heaven when we die, that completely voids both the Abrahamic and Davidic covenants! Kingdom of God and kingdom of heaven are synonymous. Matthew used heaven as not to offend jews who would not use or pronounce the holy name of God. If the covenants are broken the makes God into a liar. God cannot lie. The kingdom will obviously be on earth. The kingdom of God starting with the return of The Messiah Jesus, this messianic kingdom will last for 1000 years while the earth is rebuilt, and Satan is held captive. After the millennium Satan will be released for a final battle, then he will be destroyed forever. After this the earth will be cleansed with fire and God himself will come down to earth forever.
     
  8. Terrywoodenpic

    Terrywoodenpic Oldest Heretic

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    I think yours is a fairly narrow and special reading.
    Not that many Christians would agree with it.

    Terry_____________________
    Blessed are those who bring peace, they shall be children of God
     
  9. Aqualung

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    We don't go to heaven when we die. If we were good, our spirits go to "paradise" to await the resurection and judgement, and bad people go to "the spirit prison." Both will still be subjected to temptations like those here, and people in Paradise will preach the gospel to those in the spirit prison. When the resurection comes, we will go to one of three kingdoms - the celestial (kindgom of god), the terestrial, or the telestial.

    It is on earth as we speak, and during his mellenial reign this kingdom will not be just churchy but also political.

    Yep, the celestial kingdom (kingdom of god) will be on a purified earth.
     
  10. KOG

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    How loosley can one read the scripture without losing its original Hebrew reading and mindset? Many people are coming to see this. It is the orthodox reding of scripture which is influenced by gnosticism that twists the word of God into what many believe today. Many who study the bible on their own are coming to believe what I last posted.
     
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    fable n 1: a deliberately false or improbable account [syn: fabrication, fiction] 2: a short moral story (often with animal characters) [syn: parable, allegory, apologue] 3: a story about mythical or supernatural beings or events [syn: legend]
     
  12. sojourner

    sojourner Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006

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    I don't think the gospel message is what most protestant Christians would say it is. Jesus proclaims that the kingdom of God has come near. That's the good news. What keeps the Christian message within the parameters you speak of, is that Jesus says he came to fulfill the Law of the covenant. The kingdom is both a "now/not yet" proposition.
     
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    lunamoth Will to love

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    The good news is "Do not be afraid, for I am with you. The Kingdom of God is at Hand."

    The veil is torn, the context changed, the paradigm shifted.

    peace,
    lunamoth
     
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    How does this void the Abrahamic or Davidic covenant?
     
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    Adam and Eve rebelled against God taking on a consciousness separate from God and they were put out of the Garden of Eden and were denied access to the tree of life. Their minds were veiled. Their new minds could not contemplate immortality and this determines how their bodies worked and they then aged.
    We are then, all brought up to believe a certain way and our character and personality develop, revolving around our own self. We are unable to even imagine the mind required to be immortal.

    The veil in the mind to knowing God is all those things that go on in the mind. Promptings, temptation, imaginations and these can become actions and behaviors. The result is that there is something standing in the place of God in the mind that tends to dominate and rule the personality and this is Satan. Therefore all usual human endeavor and behavior and interaction and the presence of a person has a ruler and this represents his kingdom, the kingdom of Satan. This kingdom brings all the emotional response, impulsiveness, diseases, sickness and deformities, even mutations and the predatory biology, the decay and oxidization and entropy of this planet and universe. I know this sounds impossible but we have our being and presence in God and God is clothed in light and with a sweep of His hand everything is brought into existence. God manifests everything instantly and all that is seen is made to appear as we see it all the time.

    But when Adam and Eve rebelled all creation came under a subjection to a futility and they themselves and all biology and also the physical universe. Sin came into the world and this word means to miss the mark or alternatively to not measure up.
    Jesus overcame sin and the human mind with Satan's control then developing a mind and nature that was acceptable to God and he was raised from the dead and is immortal and alive. Jesus is the ruler and king in the kingdom of God. If a person is willing they can become recipients and participators in what can start off as something of an act but should go deeper and become real as the mind changes. The Kingdom of God will bring a new heaven and earth and Satan will be brought into total captivity and chained up. There will be no sickness or death.
     
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