Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
Since God is both transcendent to creation and immanent in it,...the answer is,.. both.
Jesus could be considered an avatar as per Hindu esoteric understanding, ie. the secondary incarnation of God into an already existing adult human body purged and purified by a primary incarnation which was the person from birth to the time of it's sacrifice when it makes way for the Divine union.
Result,..the Father and I are one!
Jesus could have also been, simply a man who learned to be obedient to 'Who He Was,' for 'Who He Was,' just like 'Who I Am,' to whom I am an obedient servant is joined to his beginnings by an unbroken genetic thread of life, and 'Who I Am' is not under the penality of death and can never die. If 'Who You Are' becomes you and you become 'Who You Are,' then death shall have no power over you.
Once Jesus discovered 'Who He Was' and became obedient to his inner saviour who was the compilation of all his ancestors who had fallen asleep in righteousness, his saviour and indwelling Father spirit, then began to die in the process of involution to become one with his obedient servant, releasing those righteous spirits from the least to the greatest, diminishing into apparent nothingness while Jesus who died to who he once was and who was obedient to each quickening spirit, grew in wisdom, knowledge and insight untill he was the compilation of all the spirits of his good ancestors who had died in righteousness and were judged and found worty of the resurrection. In the process of involution the Father became the Son and in the process of evolution the Son became the Father. But do you know who the Father is?
Thank you S-word, the message you give, despite the very different language of delivery, appears to reasonably congruent with my presesent understanding.
Yes, in my post there is an unintended error that you picked up on, ie. Jesus is the primary incarnation, ie. a man, and not the secondary one.
Now the secondary incarnation (hope you find that the language I am using is sufficiently congruent with your understanding as to not pose a problem) which I posited as Father is the subject of your question.
Now my present understanding is incomplete in this regard so I am open to advice. However, in a general sense, one would intuit that the secondary Divine incarnation would probably be a planetary spirit in the hierarchical scheme of things, or a solar.