War, when is it nessecary?

[Ori]

Or is it even nessecary?
Where do you draw the line?
Fighting only begets revenge, which is why the world is in the state it is in now.

 

[Fluffy]

War is never necessary. However, I will not begrudge a nation which decides to defend itself against another nation which does not understand this concept.

I especially dislike war for policing's sake although, again, coming to another nation's defence, is a different matter.

So I guess I draw my line at the zero tolerance mark.

Revenge, in itself, is totally unnecessary and is nearly as bad as the fighting in the first place, in my opinion. Its just the way you said it was as if the fighting was an adequate excuse for such vengence.

 

[michel]

Or is it even nessecary?
Where do you draw the line?
Fighting only begets revenge, which is why the world is in the state it is in now.

We had a similar thread - I think I remember it being 'Is killing ever justified, and if so, why' To which, if I remember rightly, the concensus was that no killing is justifiable; sadly, on occasions, it is a necessary evil.

One example - Hitler's invasion of Poland, and the start of the persecution of Jews, and others.

 

[Linus]

I believe war is sometimes necessary, but it is highly unfortunate and extremely sad when it comes to such an extreme.

 

[Ormiston]

I think war is necessary when all other options have been exhausted. I don't pretend to know the parameters of such things, but I do know that war will always exist among humans. How? Can you eliminate fear? Can you eliminate man's desire for power? Perhaps the only exception would be a world unified under one army in which no other armies exist that would dare make themselves public. Doesn't seem possible due to our racial diversity though.

 

[Tawn]

War can sometimes be necessary, you just have to make sure your victory is total.

 

[Fluffy]

War can sometimes be necessary, you just have to make sure your victory is total.

Could you give me an example of a war which was necessary?

 

[Linus]

I can give one: World War II

 

[Pah]

I can give one: World War II

Only in the perpestive of the eyes of the Allies. It was totally not required for the Axis in territorial expansion and they started it.

 

[Linus]

Only in the perpestive of the eyes of the Allies. It was totally not required for the Axis in territorial expansion and they started it.

You are correct.

 

[Faminedynasty]

War is necessary whenever the financial and political interests of a tiny class of elite rich can be advanced.

 

[CaptainXeroid]

I can give one: World War II

I'd say you are 100% correct. World War II resulted in millions of deaths, but it was necessary to combat the pure evil represented by Adolf Hitler. I shudder to think what would have happened to the world if America had not entered WWII. War is hell, war is never pretty, but in that case it was definitely necessary.

 

[NothingIsNot]

War is never necessary. You say WWII was necessary, but I ask you this: Was it necessary for Hitler to start a war? The war lies in Nazi Germany's action, not in the act of self-defense.

 

[CaptainXeroid]

...Was it necessary for Hitler to start a war?...

In his mind, yes. Do I agree with him, NO! WWII was self-defense for England, France, and Russia, but it was not for America. Are you suggesting that it was not necessary for America to enter WWII?

 

[Pah]

There is no question that America did not enter the WWII as a defender. There were acts of war time agression against the United States by 2 ot the Axis powers, Germany and Japan.

But I would consider Iraq and Afganistan to be not required.

 

[Linus]

Was it necessary for Hitler to start a war?

No. But then again, it wasn't really a war until he was challenged. At that point it became a war, and one tht was necessary. In my opinion, that is.

 

[Fluffy]

No. But then again, it wasn't really a war until he was challenged. At that point it became a war, and one tht was necessary. In my opinion, that is.

So you are saying the Polish just sat on their hands as they were decimated on both sides? Agreed the war escalated when the allies joined in but it was a defensive action. War was already happening. And Hitler was challenged LONG before Britain or France became involved.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

WWII was self-defense for England, France, and Russia, but it was not for America.

What would you call it then? If counter-attacking from a surprise attack that nearly wiped out an entire naval base and nearly the entire fleet station there, then what is it? Revenge yes, but the war against Japan was also a self-defense from more attacks.

 

[NothingIsNot]

All in all, war is never necessary, but it happens because man cannot control his nature... yet.

 

[Scuba Pete]

I abhor war.

I always have.

It is usually the result of our collective greed.