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US approves $1.8 billion weapons sale to Taiwan

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Claiming independence would be the one thing bringing Taiwan on a collision course with China, which is currently the island's primary import, export, and investment partner. On the other hand, allowing both the Communists and the KMT to cling to the political fiction of eventual reunification at some point in the unspecified future ensures continued peaceful coexistence between the two.

As for democracy, nobody in the West gave a crap when the KMT murdered or disappeared tens of thousands of alleged "communists" during its early years of consolidating power, so I doubt that Taiwanese democracy in and of itself is a meaningful motivator for any Western country in existence to leap to the defense of a country that nobody recognizes as legitimate.
Far as I'm concerned, the communist invasion of China in the 50s was and still is a rouge and illegal government. Taiwan has earned its sovereignty.
 

Brickjectivity

wind and rain touch not this brain
Staff member
Premium Member
China is not happy about this.
We can't be sure what its strategy is merely by its complaining. Sometimes in diplomacy he who has the most complaints wins, so complaining is important. Also not letting people know what you truly care about can be key. Odds are good that China's government actually doesn't care a lot about Taiwan. Sure it wants to claim the culture preserved in Taiwan, but maybe what it really wants are other things like perhaps resource rights and trade favors.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
We can't be sure what its strategy is merely by its complaining. Sometimes in diplomacy he who has the most complaints wins, so complaining is important. Also not letting people know what you truly care about can be key. Odds are good that China's government actually doesn't care a lot about Taiwan. Sure it wants to claim the culture preserved in Taiwan, but maybe what it really wants are other things like perhaps resource rights and trade favors.

Possibly. I can't really speculate as to what their intentions or mindset might be, but indeed, it could all be part of a larger strategy. On the other hand, it might also be a matter of national pride and honor, where they may not be able to let it go that easily. They may not necessarily care about Taiwan directly, but it seems clear that the whole situation has been a thorn in their side for quite some time. Maybe not because of Taiwan itself, but the US and other Allied nations have been deeply involved in the region for quite some time. Taiwan is just one piece of a larger puzzle.

I think the fear now is that China may flex its muscle to exert more hegemony in the region, especially if the US appears to be weakening. Other countries in the region may also be worried about that, and they may feel the need to start building up their military forces (the Japanese just recently launched a new submarine and are planning to build more).

North Korea is another wild card thrown into the mix, so it's hard to say where all this will wind up. Let's just hope the world's leaders can stay sane - which is a bit of a tall order these days.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
Formosa... Taiwan has a long history.
sometimes under European control sometimes under Chines and sometimes under Japanese impartial control.
The original indigenous inhabitants make up a very small minority of the population. From the late 19th century until the end of the second world war it is controlled by the Japanese empire. After which the rump of the defeated Chinese forces and their supporters took control.

China has never given up their claim on Taiwan, though they have historically had difficulty maintain control over it.
Even Japan had difficulty administering it, with half of it referred to as the savage district.
since WW2 the nationalists have governed Taiwan.

With the rise of China as a world power second only to the USA, and with the certain prospect of China taking over from them in perhaps less than 30 years. There is little doubt that Taiwan will eventually be reabsorbed into the Chines fold once again.
Much like Hong Kong, and Macau and Tibet.

However China is in no hurry, it almost certainly wants that process to occur with as little damage and loss of value as possible. The reality is that America could not defend Taiwan in the event of a Chines take over. The only beneficiaries of the present supply of arms is to the Arms manufacturers.

At the present time both the Chines and American forces neutralise each other in any reasonable projection of war. However the growth and advancement of the Chines forces. is projected to overwhelm those of the USA, in all respects, in around twenty to thirty years.

China has the distinct advantage of very long term thinking and planning. Something the USA with its four year leadership cycle is incapable of. China also had the advantage of a very rapidly growing economy, research, scientific and manufacturing base, to support those plans.. The USA by contrast, is even struggling to maintain it infrastructure and manufacturing ability at all. Its bank of intellectual property rights are rapidly reaching their sell by dates, and patent protections. Not that such things have any meaning in a war footing.

It would make far more sense for the USA to enter into friendly completion with China. rather than force China to fill in its Scientific and technological gaps. But it may be too late for that, as the USA has already shown its hand by black listing many Chinese companies and restricting the sale of American technology solutions. China will already have laid out plans and strategies and started to fill those gaps.

The USA on the other hand is still reliant on China for many key products and materials.
 
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