Todays world( 2Tim 3)

[kjw47]

Do you see 2Tim 3 in todays world?
Jesus teaches--satan is the ruler of this world( this system of things)--
He transforms into an angel of light( 2Cor 11:12-15) as some teachers as well.
Jesus taught--Enter through the narrow gate, For cramped is the road that leads off into life( Gods kingdom) FEW are the ones finding it-- For many have entered the broad and spacious path that leads to destruction( not eternal suffering)
The broad and spacious path = satan has his hands in many things on this earth--making it look good to the mortal heart. His #1 tool throughout the history of mankind is--From generation to generation, from parent to child--false god worship--things off the table of demons handed down or shared. Without them being aware---Because God says--one CANNOT partake of his table( count for anything) if one partakes off the table of demons( 1Cor 10:21)--- those partaking off the table of demons are fitting in with the world. Those who listened to Jesus are no part of this world-- they do not fit in--thus rejected.
Jesus taught the world would hate his followers.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Jesus taught the world would hate his followers.

Good thing you follow close behind the 'slave' as THEY follow the Lamb, huh?

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

Considering the state of the world today there is no doubt Satan is running things.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Those who listened to Jesus are no part of this world

Not joining the military and holding no government jobs, does not make you "no part of this world".

Do you have cable? If so, you are supporting the trash they broadcast, even if you don't watch it!

 

[kjw47]

Not joining the military and holding no government jobs, does not make you "no part of this world".

Do you have cable? If so, you are supporting the trash they broadcast, even if you don't watch it!

Hollywood, music, video games= violence, immoral sex, the occult. 3 things God hates.
The world' celebrations are filled with pagan practices off the table of demons. Even the two they try to hand to Jesus.

 

[kjw47]

Considering the state of the world today there is no doubt Satan is running things.

I guess that is why the bible teaches--the coming of Gods kingdom is good news.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

Hollywood, music, video games= violence, immoral sex, the occult. 3 things God hates.

Do you have a cable service? If so, you are a BIG part of the world.

 

[savagewind]

Do you know @kjw that 2 Timothy 3:2 "love" means to be a friend of.

You do know that the governing body plays the stock market. Do you not know that?
That is being a friend of money which in turn definitely means being a friend of the world.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Jesus teaches--satan is the ruler of this world( this system of things)--

I find it difficult to respect a deity who can let the planet under his control be conquered so easily by someone far less powerful.

Jesus taught--Enter through the narrow gate, For cramped is the road that leads off into life( Gods kingdom) FEW are the ones finding it

That's poor road engineering, right there.

Jesus taught the world would hate his followers

Nothing says "cult" like "people are going to tell you that I'm stupid, so let me say they are the stupid ones, nyahhh."

Considering the state of the world today there is no doubt Satan is running things.

And God and Jesus are ...?

Not joining the military and holding no government jobs, does not make you "no part of this world".

Even if you stick your head in the sand literally, you are still part of the world. A coward in the world, but still a part of it.

Hollywood, music, video games= violence, immoral sex, the occult. 3 things God hates.

The internet?

I guess that is why the bible teaches--the coming of Gods kingdom is good news.

But God's eternal, so why isn't He currently in charge?

 

[lostwanderingsoul]

God has allowed Satan to temporarily rule the earth to prove that without God the earth is doomed. Man and Satan will only lead to death and destruction. When Jesus returns and takes control even nonbelievers will realize how wrong they were.

 

[kjw47]

I find it difficult to respect a deity who can let the planet under his control be conquered so easily by someone far less powerful.


That's poor road engineering, right there.


Nothing says "cult" like "people are going to tell you that I'm stupid, so let me say they are the stupid ones, nyahhh."


And God and Jesus are ...?


Even if you stick your head in the sand literally, you are still part of the world. A coward in the world, but still a part of it.


The internet?


But God's eternal, so why isn't He currently in charge?

Eden is Why---Satan raised issues against Gods universal sovereignty in front of all beings( 2 mortals and millions of angels)--God could have wiped them out on the spot but that wouldn't have addressed the issue raised against him. So once and for all time it is being proved to all who is right--God or satan.
God says mortals need know only good and listen to his advice to find the best path to lasting happiness.
Satan said if we know both sides ourselves we can choose for ourselves and wont need to listen to Gods advice. This system is the result of 99% not listening to God.

 

[djhwoodwerks]

This system is the result of 99% not listening to God.

And the 1% that think they are listening to God, are cowards and just sit back and wait for God to do His thing.

One question, why do you think that the church is called the "Body of Christ"?

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Eden is Why---Satan raised issues against Gods universal sovereignty in front of all beings( 2 mortals and millions of angels)--God could have wiped them out on the spot but that wouldn't have addressed the issue raised against him. So once and for all time it is being proved to all who is right--God or satan.
God says mortals need know only good and listen to his advice to find the best path to lasting happiness.
Satan said if we know both sides ourselves we can choose for ourselves and wont need to listen to Gods advice. This system is the result of 99% not listening to God.

If the world is now being run by Satan, then Satan's pretty good at running things. We have the longest life expectancies in history, the best health, most wealth, least amount of violence and war there ever was,ost advanced technology, most advanced views of ethics and law we've ever had, etc. So Satan seems like a swell guy. Obviously we should worship him instead. You're a great pitchmen for him. Obviously we don't need God since he doesn't seem to be doing anything in the first place. Satan was right, apparently.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Eden is Why---Satan raised issues against Gods universal sovereignty in front of all beings( 2 mortals and millions of angels)--God could have wiped them out on the spot but that wouldn't have addressed the issue raised against him. So once and for all time it is being proved to all who is right--God or satan.

It doesn't prove who was right. The serpent (NOT Satan as Genesis mentions that absolutely NOWHERE) told the truth and God was the one trying to hide it. There are many stories of humans (and at least one monkey) stealing immortality and such type of food from the gardens of the gods. It wasn't right to bring up that God is being less than honest about His reasons?

Satan said if we know both sides ourselves we can choose for ourselves and wont need to listen to Gods advice. This system is the result of 99% not listening to God.

To follow anyone blindly is a problem. It is RIGHT to verify what is going on before jumping off the cliff.

 

[kjw47]

And the 1% that think they are listening to God, are cowards and just sit back and wait for God to do His thing.

One question, why do you think that the church is called the "Body of Christ"?

No such word as church belongs in Gods written word--Congregation is the correct usage of the greek word used. A church didn't even exist until centuries after Jesus and the NT was written. A mistranslated word--there are many in trinity translations--to fit Catholicism false council teachings.

 

[kjw47]

If the world is now being run by Satan, then Satan's pretty good at running things. We have the longest life expectancies in history, the best health, most wealth, least amount of violence and war there ever was,ost advanced technology, most advanced views of ethics and law we've ever had, etc. So Satan seems like a swell guy. Obviously we should worship him instead. You're a great pitchmen for him. Obviously we don't need God since he doesn't seem to be doing anything in the first place. Satan was right, apparently.

God gave everlasting life to Adam and Eve if they didn't eat of the tree--we have digressed.
If you believe satan was right--how right will he be when you see your mate suffering through cancer or something like that. Or watch a child die? How right will satan be then?

 

[kjw47]

It doesn't prove who was right. The serpent (NOT Satan as Genesis mentions that absolutely NOWHERE) told the truth and God was the one trying to hide it. There are many stories of humans (and at least one monkey) stealing immortality and such type of food from the gardens of the gods. It wasn't right to bring up that God is being less than honest about His reasons?


To follow anyone blindly is a problem. It is RIGHT to verify what is going on before jumping off the cliff.

It doesn't prove who was correct--God created mortals to know only good, never sick, or aging like now. He gave them everlasting life if they didn't eat of that tree( gave them free will)
God is always right. He has to make decisions concerning all, for all time. We don't have a clue as to what that would be like.
Do you like seeing wars of hatred, murder, aids, cancer, etc--satan brought all of it to us by lying to Eve.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

God gave everlasting life to Adam and Eve if they didn't eat of the tree--we have digressed.
If you believe satan was right--how right will he be when you see your mate suffering through cancer or something like that. Or watch a child die? How right will satan be then?

Don't try to play the cancer card with me - I've lost a loved one to cancer. It's your problem for making your god out to be inept and absentee. We're getting along about as good as I expect us to be.

 

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

God created mortals to know only good, never sick, or aging like now.

Based on what quote? If death didn't exist, does that mean everything they ate just lived through their entire digestive system?

He gave them everlasting life if they didn't eat of that tree( gave them free will)

And yet there was a magic tree that conferred immortality. You have no evidence otherwise that humans were just mortal from the beginning.

God is always right.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

Do you like seeing wars of hatred, murder, aids, cancer, etc--satan brought all of it to us by lying to Eve.

1. SATAN IS NOT IN THAT STORY! The serpent didn't lie: God confirms the real reason mentioned by the serpent mere paragraphs later. He didn't want to share superpowers. That's it. It was selfish.
2. God made the world and all its limitations. Buck stops at the top, pumpkin.

 

[kjw47]

Don't try to play the cancer card with me - I've lost a loved one to cancer. It's your problem for making your god out to be inept and absentee. We're getting along about as good as I expect us to be.

All who know God, knows his decisions are correct--everytime. Satan raised issues against him in Eden and concerning Job--these issues are being proven false once and for all time so they can never be brought up again--God was correct in that decision--1/3 of the angels fell after that--so it could have happened over and over--God made sure it doesn't.