It seems that as I look at the titles in theological concepts it's just philosophy and reductionism specifically. It all seems like a string theory (reality starts with non dimensional strings) and manifests into physical. The discussions start with that assumption but are specific lost in the trees debates how those magic strings work and manifest the forest. I could be wrong it could be a type of multiverse discussion where tolkiens LOTR is actually a literal scientific story telepathically transmitted from another universe. Reductionism is wierd but definitely " normal".