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The Subjective Universe and Life After Death - by Richard D. Murad II°

Discussion in 'Setian DIR' started by 1137, Mar 21, 2017.

  1. 1137

    1137 Thelemite
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    This is from Temple of Set volume II by Dr. Michael A. Aquino.
     
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  2. jcforever

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    I now understand what the objective reality is of man and God. I have known for quite sometime that we experience life with subjective created senses but the voice of God and the intelligence behind that voice is our true objective reality. Computers with AI and Voice technology helps explain the objective reality we're involved in.
     
  3. viole

    viole Metaphysical Naturalist
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    Thank you Siri. What would I know without you?

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  4. A Vestigial Mote

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    I'm sorry... this is probably going to sound petty... but if this is anywhere near a published, or even "submitted" work, I just have to call it out for what it is. Third highlighted paragraph - "There are no holes(sic) barred." I could face-palm for the rest of my life and not get past this sticking point. I ask you... how am I to take the work seriously? Whoever wrote this was so obviously attempting to wield the language as a tool, and attempting with all their precious might to do so gracefully - and then this. Sad. It really is.

    The phrase is "no holds barred." An allusion to wrestling, where certain holds or tactics are prohibited. Therefore "No holds barred" would be a match in which you could get away with anything you wanted. "No holes barred?", well... I could see it meaning the same thing, really... just a notch or two less wholesome.
     
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    Interesting take. Being no Setian I would like to ask a question to understand it better: I don't share the belief that the mental and astral world are separate from the "objective" universe, as our thoughts and feelings are clearly caused by both our environment and our biological hardware (e.g. our instincts and subconscious), and in turn also cause changes in the latter (and in the former in case magick does work). It seems like one coherent system to me. Could you give any further arguments on why you consider them separate? And where would thoughts come from when only the mental or astral plane is left? You (or the text you quote) seem to count the subconscious to the subjective universe, but as it is not within the reach of our consciousness, how can it be part of it?
     
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    The voice of the system that we're involved in told me "I AM YOUR CREATOR".
     
  7. Lorgar-Aurelian

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    Rather interesting brother 1137, thank you for posting this.
     
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  8. Adramelek

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    This is a very good analysis of Black Magic when the author of the OP wrote: "Reaching out of our subjective universe and touching objective reality is what Magic is all about."
     
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    1137 this document from the Temple of Set volume 2 hits it on the head on life after death. As I myself am atheistic and a little bit theistic it has been hard for me to tackle down Life after Death. It is amazing however that many of us may have different concepts on Life after Death whether we become Spirits and wander around earth, or whether our body and our mind shuts down. I may not agree fully with the atheists perspective on Life after Death, in my own opinion who knows what will truly happen to us.
     
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