The Origin of All Earths Religions

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks..

FunnyKindofMormon;

On this argument, we should accept the translations of those Sumerianists who have translated the tablets more recently still than Zecharia Sitchin..

Yer but WHY should we even do that..??...They havent cross referanced anything - they havent taken into account such things as OTHER recorded versions of this history - and neither have they attempted yo tackle or explain any of the "hard questions" such reserarch inevitably uncovers...

WHEN these academic scholars can give us an explanation for these "primitvie peoples" MAGNIFICENT BUILDING ACHIEVEMENTS that even modern man with our machinery cannot even come close to achieving still, yet THEY did it back then WITH EASE the entire world over - WHEN academia can explain THAT then and only then can they be deemed reliable !! They cant explain any of the hard questions at all - and there are plenty to ask - the reason academia fails is as said - they treat everything "before flood" as pure myth and allegory - and they deal only with one specific aspect or artifact at a time and so miss entirely the larger context of entire world history....These are gross failures on their part...Proven to be unreliable - proven to be INNACURATE - for as said academia teaches us these ancients thought the world was FLAT right up to fairly recent times -yet here THOUSANDS IF YEARS AGO they clearly know of the Earth as a globe - a planet - clearly know ALL the other planets - even those we have again, only RECENTLY discovered ourselves....

WHEN - academia - science - accepted wisdom - can account for all that plus lots lots more - then and only then can they be deemed as reliable !!

WHEN they STOP COVERING UP their lies and misrepresentations - such as the clear chicanery openly admiited by that famous world renowned SMITHSONIAN INSTITUTE - when they stop DECEIVING US ON PURPOSE -then and only then can they be deemed reliable.....All this is -rather obvius - isnt it...certainly - we should NOT trust them blindly or take their teachings as "ultimate truth" - especially when the truth THEY present goes directly against the real world HARD EVIDENCE that is undeniabkle and NEEDS to be accoutned for... Academia as a whole DOES have agenda after all - and sadly that agenda is not always the pursuit of legitimate truth at all - and is most often aimed at keeping the status quo intact...

I think the way forward from here might be if you present a particular tablet, Zecharia Sitchin's translation of that tablet (word for word), an academic translation (let's go with one from the ETCSL website) (again word for word), and then quotes from other sources (elsewhere in the world) that support your argument wrt the meaning of that particular tablet.

Hmm - bit pointless though -we already know academia is extremely limited in their approach -and we already know Sitchin took a much wider view in his interpretation - to compare the two then would only show us that which we already know - pointless...The real issue here is one of LEGITIMATE ACCURACY - and as said - for academia to be seen as legitimate here then they really do NEED to explain all that hard evidence that directly contradicts and disproves their historical theories...My dear old mums advise seems to be best - what cant speak cant tell lies - those real world hard evidence discrepancies and contradictions cannot be ignored by academia - to be trustworthy they NEED to explian it all - and to stop deliberately lying and misleading us of course - and to achieve that they will need to widen their perspectuve a great deal...

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Yer but WHY should we even do that..??...They havent cross referanced anything - they havent taken into account such things as OTHER recorded versions of this history

But why should they cross-reference in the way you suggest in order to translate a piece of text? Why is that necessarily more reliable? You need to try to decipher the language - what the symbols might mean - in the context in which they were utilised. Reading into a text from the vantage point of our context - much removed in time and space - or from other contexts the world over is open to errors of bias and misinterpretation. No-one is immune to this, of course, including academia, but at least the method employed has a certain soundness to it.

and neither have they attempted yo tackle or explain any of the "hard questions" such reserarch inevitably uncovers...

Which particular hard questions do you have in mind here?

these "primitvie peoples"

I don't think our predecessors were particularly 'primitive'.

WHEN these academic scholars can give us an explanation for these "primitvie peoples" MAGNIFICENT BUILDING ACHIEVEMENTS that even modern man with our machinery cannot even come close to achieving still, yet THEY did it back then WITH EASE the entire world over - WHEN academia can explain THAT then and only then can they be deemed reliable !!

But scholars have put forward explanations for ancient building achievements. Our predecessors weren't without knowledge, and they had their scholars and scientists too. And manpower goes a long way if you have lots of it at your ready disposal.

they treat everything "before flood" as pure myth and allegory

I'm not sure they do.

and they deal only with one specific aspect or artifact at a time

This has been a problem in several areas of archaeology, but is changing.

Proven to be unreliable - proven to be INNACURATE

It's in the nature of academic enquiry and science that errors are made. A hypothesis or theory might be advanced, some evidence might be found that appears to back it up, but as more evidence, or different kinds of evidence, accumulates, hypotheses and theories might need to be amended or even completely overturned. That's just the nature of the beast.

WHEN - academia - science - accepted wisdom - can account for all that plus lots lots more - then and only then can they be deemed as reliable !!

I'm not sure that this will happen in our lifetimes! It's a slow process.

WHEN they STOP COVERING UP their lies and misrepresentations -

Cover-ups do occasionally happen, but you seem to be implying some kind of global conspiracy, which I'm afraid I don't see any evidence for.

when they stop DECEIVING US ON PURPOSE

As above.

All this is -rather obvius - isnt it

Not to me it isn't.

certainly - we should NOT trust them blindly or take their teachings as "ultimate truth"

Oh absolutely, always question everything!

especially when the truth THEY present goes directly against the real world HARD EVIDENCE that is undeniabkle

You're going to have to be a bit more specific.

Academia as a whole DOES have agenda after all - and sadly that agenda is not always the pursuit of legitimate truth at all - and is most often aimed at keeping the status quo intact...

I agree that there is a certain amount of conservatism in academia (as in many religions and societies more generally), and it can be difficult to go against the grain. But saying that as a result all academic work is suspect is, in my opinion, going too far.

My dear old mums advise seems to be best - what cant speak cant tell lies

Can't necessarily tell the truth either, though!

 

[PeteC-UK]

Hi Folks..

FunnyKindofMormon;

But why should they cross-reference in the way you suggest in order to translate a piece of text? Why is that necessarily more reliable?

Well obviously it must be more reliable by virtue of the fact it takes into account more sources of knoweldge..When we read something first time - we NATURALLY tend to link it immediately to things that we INDIVIDUALLY already know accept and appreciate as "truth"....So, we all naturally put our own understaning INTO the things we encounter new - we TRY to make it fit with things we ALREADY ACCEPT...ALWAYS we do this...

See then - the limited academic view - accepts very little and shuns the rest..Only works with the direct text there in the individuals hand - or among a set of obviously linked texts for example - and the SAME actual content - same narratives stories and events - MAY be mentioned ELSEWHERE,often in entirely DIFFERENT cultures - and yet obviously dealing with the SAME real world event....therefore such cross referencing becomes not only more reliable, Id say it becomes ESSENTIAL... Just take the "flood saga" for example - we know it best perhaps from the Jewish heritage and THAT version - and yet ALL OVER THE WORLD this event is recorded in MANY many cultures that are not Jewish at all.. So obviously - if we find a "Jewish" text that deals with this - we should to be prudent go check out all those other similar events as well to see if indeed there is corroboration or not.....And visa versa of course - other cultures contain the SAME narratives myths and legends - all over the world - and so of course to gain the most complete truth of such events, then indeed we DO NEED to look at it ALL as a WORLD phenomena and not just a "single artifact" phenomena...

Often times - such cross referencing though - will throw up an "anomoly" or a confusion - a discrepancy in ACCEPTED "truth" that proves that the first truth is incomplete - or sometimes entirely innacurate to begin with..Such as - this issue of a FLAT Earth - that academia fully insists no way man knew the Earth was round until Columbus days... INSIST this is so and hinge their whole accepted "historical timeline" on such things that they present in our schools as "legitimate fact" - when all along they know it CANNOT be a fact at all as they have EVIDENCE that tells them directly mankind KNEW COSMOLOGY even to a great degree that MODERN man can only just recently VERIFY their truth as ACCURATE truth.....Academia KNOWS this to be ACTUAL fact - yet stil repeatedly clings to the now absurd notion that mankind believed they lived on a flat Earth....

Similarly - those that teach us INSIST that one side of the world had NO CONTACT with the other at all as mankind was too dumb until recently, to build ships capable of such voyages...And yet - once again - we see MATCHING NARRATIVES that PROVE such contact must have occurred after all....Prove beyond any doubt - hard evidence such as statues and art work that depict the same scenes and events - different names as it is a different culture and as explained previously this division of mankind and seperation of language was done on purpose with intent to confuse mankind so we should EXPECT such differences - and yet the CONTENT remains near identical as the narratves are based on actual truth of factual events....These we call "gods" the world over - same descriptions - same attributes given - same deeds and titles given - names and culture changes yet the "god" remains the same.. Without such cross referencing we would miss out on that whole world wide viewpoint and our truth would always remain incomplete...

But as said - academia WANTS It that way - they dont like to admit they basicly got it FULLY WRONG - and what they think and teach about our recent past from around the last 10 000 years or so is now seen to be TOTALLY INNACURATE - proved beyond all doubt that the mainstream academic wisdom is completely flawed...It MUST be for as said they INSIST and still teach the same historic timeline - even though they have all this evidence that tells them they are wrong....It is very clear there was indeed a one world kind of religion and system, for as said the entire world SHARES the same foundational narratives - even if academia NOW call them nothing but "myth and legend" STILL to these first people the events recorded were real and legitimate - and the fact that the same events same narratives same characters are indeed recorded all over the world - coherant and easy to follow - shows us obviously that yes indeed at that time it was a SINGLE source of original truth...That source IS the ancient Sumerian accounts themselves - it ALL starts THERE..

You need to try to decipher the language - what the symbols might mean - in the context in which they were utilised.

EXACTLY - and we also need to realise the symbols are all WORLD WIDE and again they ALL start in Sumer..lol...

For instance - there is a symbol we call a "winged disc" - that is found all over the world in various cultures and is always associated with a "god" of one form or another....Now academia - finds such an artifact for example - lets say they find a vase with this picture in a temple to specific god Ra for example - so - MISTAKENLY - they say "oh yer this winged disc represents Ra " - and if they dont go cross referance that symbol elsewhere with the earlier wisdom or other truths, then this Ra representation will be their only LIMITED truth...However - if they DID take the effort go and cross referance the symbol they would realise its not Ra`s symbol at all - but rather, a symbol pertaining to ALL gods - something common to them ALL that marks them AS a god - but NOT specific to the individual deity they first find associated with it.. So we can see clearly - there is after all, a definate advantage to this cross referance approach after all - it gives us COMPLETE truth (as best as we can uncover it)..

The winged disc example symbol is a direct representation - I say - of that which we would now call a SPACESHIP - something COMMON to all those we cal "gods" that each one had but not pertaining to any one individual god at all..Without checkin gout and cross referencing then we would never uncover that greater truth at all and would be stuck wondering how one synbol comes ot represent so many DIFFERENT deotoes...lol...

As we see cross referencing all this is quite ESSENTIAL - take another world wide symblol - one we all THINK we know and understand based entirely on that which ACADEMIA teaches us of coourse - the SWASTIKA..!! We see this symbol now and IMMEDIATELY we think of evil nazis dont we..??..Its THEIR symbol and our academic experts fully portray it and present it that way and we all BLINDLY ACCEPT what they say as "truth" and now this swastika symbol is demonsise dthe entire world over....It is an ERROR that is TAUGHT to us by academia....The swastika - although chosen BY that group of nazi psychopaths, does NOT actually represent them or THEIR idealogy at all - ORIGINALLY the symbol is some 12 000 years old and has ALWAYS had beneficial connotations ... Its root means "permant victory" actually so this is probably why Hitler chose it - but TODAY thanks to mainstream academia and their highly limited approach this symbol means "evil Naizi" and that is ALL it represents now thanks to the failure of academics to convey the LEGITIMATE TRUTH...

NOW do we see why such cross referencing is obviously better..??..

 

[PeteC-UK]

Which particular hard questions do you have in mind here?

lol - well - for a start - the six or so questions I asked Mestemia earlier this thread - good place to start - although he himself obviously has no answers to offer - but that shouldnt suprise us as academia has NO ANSWERS to offer either so he cant parrot fashion answer from any text books to give as "truth" as they have NONE to offer him to repeaat here.. Lots of real world hard evidence that directly contradicts the standard academic ideas and timelines and proves their thories as totally inaccurate...Things such as indeed - MAGNIFICENT stone buildling works - the pyramid an obvious example - created by people they tell us who have NO machine tools - no cars lorries trucks for hauling this stone - and yet working with ciollosal woghts that as said even modern man cannot yet achieve....I mean for driect example - BALBEK - constructed from GRANITE that is quarried some ten miles away and we know that as in the quarry site still, is the last block they were uncovering and cutting - and at the site itself we find THREE other similar blocks - they weigh an estimated TWELVE HUNDRED TONNES EACH !!

These were cut quarried shaped to PRECISION - somehow transported to the site - by people that academia tell us were using rudimentary tools, hammers and chisels and rollers to move the stone...lol....can we say - RIDICULOUS..??.....where is the emoticon for "facepalm" or "shakes head in bewidlerment" lol - totally nonesensical ideas taken as "everyday fact and legitimate truth" without any critical thinking at all....The world is full of such obvious discrepancy that academia simply ignores or tries to riidicule in its ignorance..

Go though - and cross referance that building event -and it makes perfect sense - we find ACTUALLY - it was constructed as a LANDING PAD - fully explained -and so we realise then that if such a people DID exist to do this then obvisuly if they had "spaceships2 and rockets they ALSO HAD TECHNOLOGY - and so perhaps to THESE such magnificent building feats could be quite ordinary given THEIR TOOLS - but most obviously the MAN of the day did not manage that construction all by himself....RIDICULOUS of academia to even suggest they managed that alone - OBVIOUSLY advanced technology WAS used for we need to ACTUALLY explain it, dont we as it ACTUALLY exists plain for all to see - and the ONLY possible way it got constructed was with TECHNOLOGY - not with basic tools and muscle power - IMPOSSIBLE and total nonesense given by academia as their only answer - even our modern machines cannot transport solid stones that weigh TWELVE HUNDRED TONNES EACH yet they have us believe earlier man managed it with just wooden rollers.....lol......Its all - a farce - isnt it..??...Total nonesense accepted as "truth"...

I don't think our predecessors were particularly 'primitive'.

Oh I dont think that either NOW - but as a child that was what we were taught by academia - and that is what same institutions taught my children in their turn - and no doubt my grandkids will likewise be spoonfed this nonesense as "truth" in their own turn to come..Its ALL based on very great errors and there is a HUGE chunk of missing history that can ONLY be explained adequately by that which academia CURRENTLY treats as mere "myth and legend"...

But scholars have put forward explanations for ancient building achievements. Our predecessors weren't without knowledge, and they had their scholars and scientists too. And manpower goes a long way if you have lots of it at your ready disposal.

lol - see above - do you HONESTLY think and believe that mere muscle power moved solid stone that weighs TWELVE HUNDRED TONNES !!! Lets be realistic here...lol...Even with our most advanced equipment this feat is BEYOND US - not to mention of course they then took such huge blocks - lifted them hundreds of feet into the air and placed them with supra precision time after time....

I could tel you (all) here that such feats were accomplished using SOUND technology - literally makes things to become weightless - similar technology used against the "walls of Jericho" where they say the "blowing of trumpets" in certain pattern made the walls literally explode - this is TECHNOLOGY Folks - and we have similar things ourselves today so can easily see what these earlier accountns mean - of course though - academia wont admit this even though the similarities are obvious to our own known modern wisdom, still they insist that this is mere "myth and legend" when the ancients speak of it and they insist it is this way because to admit they had such technology is likwise ot admit that academia is wholly wrong

It's in the nature of academic enquiry and science that errors are made. A hypothesis or theory might be advanced, some evidence might be found that appears to back it up, but as more evidence, or different kinds of evidence, accumulates, hypotheses and theories might need to be amended or even completely overturned. That's just the nature of the beast.

All very true and accurate..But the problem is the errors are FOUNDATIONAL to literally everything else they present as world historical truth.. They would need to fully admit here that they were wrong even from he first step...Modern academia arose out of RELIGION -the catholics specifically in the west once had COMPLETE CONTROL over all academic learning through out all Europe AND America - all of it "bible based truth" and all forms oi istitutionalised learning fully affiliated TO that religion..To admit now the first base errors here would be to completely over turn EVERYTHING that followed...

if they came clean now - then both mainstream academia - Hale Harvard Oxford Cambirdge Eton - ALL of that - would lose its credability over night - so too would all the western religions.. Like a domino affect it would spread and we would have to question EVERYTHING they ever told us as "truth".....They CANNOT allow it - will not allow it -and so sadly, there is a DELIBERATE attempt to conceal anything that will damage that status quo.. Same of course with modern phenomena such as ufos alien contact - probably legitimate - but they cannot come out and say so directly as it would destroy everything we took to be "truth".....

Cover-ups do occasionally happen, but you seem to be implying some kind of global conspiracy, which I'm afraid I don't see any evidence for.

Ah then dig deeper my friend - it is surely there to be found....Aside from the skeleton thing I offer earlier - Check out such things as the war in Iraq - where soldiers were ordered to raid MUSEUMS for specific artifacts...These werent then sold for money or reclaimed as lost national treasure or placed on any new museums anywhere or any such thing - they simply DISAPPEARED - like they told the soliders get them bring them to us,and then they are never heard of again...American policy makers literally stole certain SUMERIAN artifacts for their own purposes and tried to keep it very hush hush...Whats THAT all about..??..A directive from the highest levels of authority that soldiers on the ground obeyed as "an order"...

Strange - seems they either didnt want the world to see what the artifacts were - or there was somethign significant about them so they wanted them for themselves..I will tell you - the aritfacts were not merely "pottery" or vases - but also -TECHNOLOGY - and it is for that reason also that such things are covered up...Check out the Russian KGB files released when the USSR broke up..It comes to light that the KGB themsleves had a world wide archeology programme - again looking for specific Sumerian artifacts - things these "myths and legends" speak of openly - such as the Ark of the Covenant for example - a TECHNOLOGY describe d in "myth" that is believed to be REAL WORLD ARTIFACT - and so world leaders actually take this as VERY REAL for they know IT IS REAL and they are directing all this chicanery with intent and purpose...

Again we see clearly why such cross referencing is ESSENTIAL - else we will miss out half the picture entirely

 

[The_Fisher_King]

Only works with the direct text there in the individuals hand - or among a set of obviously linked texts for example

One must try to decipher the language first, and cross-referencing worldwide in the way you suggest in those early stages isn't helpful (as the language in question doesn't appear to have been a worldwide language).

and the SAME actual content - same narratives stories and events - MAY be mentioned ELSEWHERE,often in entirely DIFFERENT cultures - and yet obviously dealing with the SAME real world event....therefore such cross referencing becomes not only more reliable, Id say it becomes ESSENTIAL

Once the language has been deciphered and some at least decent first stabs at translations have been put forward, then the cross-referencing can take place.

Just take the "flood saga" for example - we know it best perhaps from the Jewish heritage and THAT version - and yet ALL OVER THE WORLD this event is recorded in MANY many cultures that are not Jewish at all.. So obviously - if we find a "Jewish" text that deals with this - we should to be prudent go check out all those other similar events as well to see if indeed there is corroboration or not.....And visa versa of course - other cultures contain the SAME narratives myths and legends - all over the world - and so of course to gain the most complete truth of such events, then indeed we DO NEED to look at it ALL as a WORLD phenomena and not just a "single artifact" phenomena...

But if you take the above example, the relevant languages were first deciphered and the relevant texts in their respective contexts were first translated, before comparison worldwide.

And yet - once again - we see MATCHING NARRATIVES that PROVE such contact must have occurred after all

I'm afraid I haven't seen such proofs. Interesting theories, to be sure, but not proofs.

For instance - there is a symbol we call a "winged disc" - that is found all over the world in various cultures and is always associated with a "god" of one form or another....Now academia - finds such an artifact for example - lets say they find a vase with this picture in a temple to specific god Ra for example - so - MISTAKENLY - they say "oh yer this winged disc represents Ra " - and if they dont go cross referance that symbol elsewhere with the earlier wisdom or other truths, then this Ra representation will be their only LIMITED truth...However - if they DID take the effort go and cross referance the symbol they would realise its not Ra`s symbol at all - but rather, a symbol pertaining to ALL gods - something common to them ALL that marks them AS a god - but NOT specific to the individual deity they first find associated with it.. So we can see clearly - there is after all, a definate advantage to this cross referance approach after all - it gives us COMPLETE truth (as best as we can uncover it)..

The existence of the winged disc in various parts of the Eastern Mediterranean and neighbouring areas can also be explained by cultural diffusion over time, from Egypt to the Levant and Mesopotamia, Iran and Greece.

As we see cross referencing all this is quite ESSENTIAL - take another world wide symblol - one we all THINK we know and understand based entirely on that which ACADEMIA teaches us of coourse - the SWASTIKA..!! We see this symbol now and IMMEDIATELY we think of evil nazis dont we..??..

I don't.

Its THEIR symbol and our academic experts fully portray it and present it that way

But they don't, though. The Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika does a decent job of this.

Things such as indeed - MAGNIFICENT stone buildling works - the pyramid an obvious example - created by people they tell us who have NO machine tools - no cars lorries trucks for hauling this stone - and yet working with ciollosal woghts that as said even modern man cannot yet achieve....I mean for driect example - BALBEK - constructed from GRANITE that is quarried some ten miles away and we know that as in the quarry site still, is the last block they were uncovering and cutting - and at the site itself we find THREE other similar blocks - they weigh an estimated TWELVE HUNDRED TONNES EACH !!

Lots and lots of slaves can do it though...

But the problem is the errors are FOUNDATIONAL to literally everything else they present as world historical truth.. They would need to fully admit here that they were wrong even from he first step...Modern academia arose out of RELIGION -the catholics specifically in the west once had COMPLETE CONTROL over all academic learning through out all Europe AND America - all of it "bible based truth" and all forms oi istitutionalised learning fully affiliated TO that religion..To admit now the first base errors here would be to completely over turn EVERYTHING that followed...

Whilst it is true that modern academia arose out of particular religious contexts, and those contexts have to an extent shaped the emergence of different academic disciplines, I don't see the same kinds of foundational errors as you do.

and so world leaders actually take this as VERY REAL for they know IT IS REAL and they are directing all this chicanery with intent and purpose...

I'm afraid I don't see the same kind of global conspiracy at work as you do.

 

[CCXLVI.]

Satan and His Daemons are also the Annunaki. Thats all I will write...

 

[Milton Platt]

This system already has some planets - all orbit the same way, but Nibiru enters the system in the counter direction, and because of its massive gravity, literally all hell breaks loose...Orbits alter - planets collide - new moons are formed around Nibiru as it makes its passage of 3600 years...It ALREADY has moons of its own bought into the system with it under its gravity - and now it steals some from Neptune and Saturn and also causes new ones to form in its wake..The first few orbits it is utter calamity here - one large moon of Nibiru directly impacts a planet they name TIAMAT...This they say is a "water planet" - and it is clear that as this happens HERE and BEFORE any life exists in this system at all - there is ALREADY a fully Sentient Nibirian presence who are alive witnessesing the calamity first hand directly living and surviving it...Indeed - it is very clearly stated that ELSEWHERE throughout the universe there exists MANY worlds and creatures and it is even implied that Nibiru is head of some kind of galactic council or federation - but HERE as yet there is no life at all....THIS event triggers it all...

The moons of Nibiru smashes the water planet Tiamat - and fractures the planet, cleaves it nearly in two....The orbits become exceedingly eratic and in a second impact the moon of Nibiru (one of) is destroyed completely - and the planet Tiamat is split into two - one part stays whole and will become our Earth - the other part disintigrates in the impact and will become the ASTEROID BELT and COMETS that splits the solar system.....

( and the god said let the waters be gathered below into one place and above seperated by the firmamant )

So crucially - Nibiru - already carrying SENTIENT LIFE and its dna - smashes into a WATER planet and thus all the essential chemical elements for that life become deposited here on Earth...The place where such an impact event happened is still visible even today - we call it the Pacific Basin, which if we drained the water away looks just like some huge rock smashed a big gouge into the Earth..Here these tablets - Enki -explains how and why it happened.....The Earth literally formed BECAUSE of Nibiru - and all its life here is seeded FROM that same genetic source...The impact gave life to Earth but nearly destroyed life on Nibiru itself...They began to lose their atmosphere due to the cosmic interactions and eventually were forced to take drastic steps to save themselves.....

Now many who know this narrative - have jumped on an aspect here and said they all but destroyed themselves with a NUCLEAR WAR - but this is just not so at all...Enki tells us clearly that their whole climatic and ecological systems are governed by the planets volcanic activity....They rely fully on seismic interaction for their planetary warmth as they spend most time far far from the sun and its heat..Indeed - it is even stated that Nibirians SLEEP THE WINTER AWAY - as if they HIBERNATE through a planetary cold spell on the far point of their orbit...The cosmic calamity as they entered our system, caused seismic disturbance to their homeworld also - upset their ecology - made them begin to vent their atmosphere similar to our own ozone holes now..

In an attempt to remedy the situation, they use what sound like nuclear type weapons detonated within volcanoes on their home world - but this only works for a while and eventually causes more harm than good...They require the element we call GOLD to literally mend their atmosphere - and indeed our own modern science now looks at similar remedies to mend OUR atmosphere also..So they search this new system their planet inhabits to see if any other planets have gold in abundance - and YES they see broken Tiamat all churned up and scan and find gold a plenty HERE...So of course they send a space expedition HERE - but the first one does not succeed...They find the asteroid belt cannot be penetrated by their huge mining ships and a whole fleet is destroyed trying to make the crossing..So they abandon the attempt as too dangerous - except this one guy ENKI - who is actually the son of the King (who is called Anu) - oh - and I should say of course - Enki - on his OWN world is named "E-a" and that is what his parents would call him for example...Not sure how to pronounce it - but "enki" as he is known to US is actually a TITLE that will be given him later here on Earth....Indeed -EArth - means literally - realm of Ea - and "Enki" actually translates as LORD of the Realm - a title he will be given following this deed outlined below how he saves his home world from certain calamity....

At first then one named Ea who is a prince of Nibiru and SECOND in line to the throne there - will go against his father the King Anu - and will undertake a SOLITARY journey here to broken Tiamat to establish if indeed gold is plenty and how easy to obtain it.. In a much smaller and manouverable craft he manages to get through the asteroid belt - "hammered bracelet" as they name it - and finally lands on the planet here in the area we call now middle east...It is stated clearly he has technology that scans the interior of the planet and sure enough he finds lots and lots of gold...It is stated just as clearly that first he uses a breathing tool and a suit to explore the land - but having tested the atmosphere he finds it compatable with Nibiru, He can breathe - it is stated clearly that with technology he tests the water and yes, he can drink - and it is stated clearly that he finds LIFE ALREADY PRESENT that he can eat - and likewise later he tells others who arrive that he has found "ONE LIKE US that walks upright with two hands"...

So Ea the prince of Nibiru - who is a REBEL and a scientist (they ALL have great intellect and specialist fields of knowledge - like specific training) - finds this new formed planet that they once called Tiamat - and he find life here already and full compatability with his homeworld - so being clever he realises this happened when Nibiru destroyed the galaxy here and the aftermath caused the new planet to form with Nibirian seed of life intact..He is amazed - and immediately contacts his father King Anu on Nibiru - YES we have gold here - and YES we can colonise this planet - all we must do is break the barrrier that protects the inner system (asteroid belt)...So a plan is devised - Ea has a brother - Prince Enlil - he comes with another fleet and uses the same types of weapons they used on the volcanoes (nuclear?) to smash through the asteroid belt and make a clear path...Eventually some NINE HUNDRED will transfer here, some stationed on the planet we call Mars which at first like here is fully habitable and the rest her on Earth split between the regions we know as middle east and Africa.... In Africa they are forced to dig mines for the gold - and this will lead to mankind being created.....

Ea - will be given the new title ENKI - Lord of the realm - and the realm itself will now be called Earth - realm of Ea - hence the Annunaki colonise a new planet they name Earth and Enki is its highest authority..ALL THIS in AMAZING DETAIL is recorded on those clay tablets from thousands of years ago....It reads like a modern science fiction saga - and yet - is cram full of FACTS and actual knowledge that these people have no plausable way of knowing....Just the content alone should prove to us that this MUST be truth for there is no other plausable credable explanation whatsoever......

Long ramble.....I don't think we can "trace them back to a source" because I am certain there were religions long before anything was written down. All you can really say is that probably as long as man has come face to face with something he could not explain, he has invented a god or gods to explain it.