The Egyptian Abyss, and Cosmology

[Kowalski]

The Egyptian Abyss, and Cosmology

The Egyptains conceptualised Nun, the primordial sea as a watery abyss, somehow suspended like a bubble in the void, that is surrounded by nothingness, emptiness and aloness. From this sea, the first God arose by strength of his own will.

Today, modern astro-physics concieves the universe as an integral, incomprehensibly vast field of ionised pre-gaseous plasma, which is the essence of Egyptian Nun and Hindu Prakriti

Some believe that within this field, gravational influences are triggered which cause a warp and densification of galatic mass centers leading to violent and abrupt changes in the pressure and density of the cosmic plasma. These whirling sonic shocks create spin in the entire galatic field, leading to the formation of Stars.

Whilst nobody can believe the Egyptians had any knowledge of modern scientific cosmology, they were amazingly accurate in a fundemental, albeit philosophical view of the void pre big-bang using the best theological thinking of the day. They neatly echo the standard cosmology in allegorical terms.

Cheers

K

 

[almifkhar]

i believe the ancients had serious knowledge of the universe. they built temples to mirror the heavens literly to a specific date in time. a date in time that their civilizations did not exist. this date is 10,500 b.c. they knew about saturn for example having rings. even the kaballistic teachings describe the big bang. they even knew the mass and orbital rate of stars that are invisble to the naked eye. they even knew the size of this planet. they were also obsessed with time. the real question is how did they get this kind of knowledge?

 

[Kowalski]

That my friend, is a question I can't answer, only to say that the creation text of Amun from Karnak seems to describe the Big Bang, more appropriatley, the big flash, quite elegantly. The term. fiery blast' describing the massive super hot expansion phase of the universe to as near as modern science knows it.

Cheers

K

 

[Halcyon]

That my friend, is a question I can't answer, only to say that the creation text of Amun from Karnak seems to describe the Big Bang, more appropriatley, the big flash, quite elegantly. The term. fiery blast' describing the massive super hot expansion phase of the universe to as near as modern science knows it.

Cheers

K

They also describe being guided down a tunnel (by a figure, in this case Anubis) toward a room of light as occuring immediately after death. This is exactly the same as people who have near death experiences describe. Problem is though, the ancient Egyptions couldn't restart the heart after several minutes like we can now, so who told them what a NDE is like?

 

[michel]

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[font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Whilst nobody can believe the Egyptians had any knowledge of modern scientific cosmology, they were amazingly accurate in a fundemental, albeit philosophical view of the void pre big-bang using the best theological thinking of the day. They neatly echo the standard cosmology in allegorical terms.
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They were pretty damned good, for their time.......
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• [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Babylonians-Egyptians, 5000 years ago, identified groupings of stars, constellations [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Purpose: calendars, navigation [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]As possibly memory aid: imagined likenesses of mythological beings or animals (asterisms) [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Greeks inherited constellations from Babylonians-Egyptians [/size][/font]
    • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Greeks identified 48 constellations [/size][/font]
    • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Remaining 40 (present 88) added by Europeans [/size][/font]
    • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Constellations (asterism) today, 88 areas with north-south and east-west boundaries covering entire sky [/size][/font]
• [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Babylonians, 2000 B.C., recorded motions of planets [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Greeks, 1000 B.C., inherited Babylonian astronomical knowledge [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Greeks, developed geometry and trigonometry, sought geometrical explanation of motions rather than numerical relationships [/size][/font]
• [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Babylonians-Egyptians identified Sun's yearly path through constellations (ecliptic) [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Moon and planets move along 16o-wide band, centered on ecliptic, zodiac [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Divided into 12 constellation divisions, or signs [/size][/font]
• [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Babylonians, 200 B.C., predicted lunar eclipses and to some extent solar eclipses [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Prediction method derived from numerical relations (numerical algorithm) in tabulated observations [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Did not devise geometrical relationships as did Greeks [/size][/font]
• [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Size and Shape of Earth [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Earth and Moon widely known to be spherical in Greek world by 5th century B.C. [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Aristotle (384-322 B.C.) stated such was old knowledge; probably inherited from Babylonians and Egyptians; three arguments [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Circular shadow projected by Earth when it eclipses Moon [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Ships disappear sailing away from shore by sinking below horizon with mast last visible; Earth's curvature visible over 13 mile distance [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]When traveling north, new stars appeared above northern horizon, while stars previously seen along southern horizon no longer visible; reverse true traveling south [/size][/font]
  • [font=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][size=-1]Eratosthenes (273-193 B.C.) measured circumference [/size][/font]

 

[Kowalski]

They also describe being guided down a tunnel (by a figure, in this case Anubis) toward a room of light as occuring immediately after death. This is exactly the same as people who have near death experiences describe. Problem is though, the ancient Egyptions couldn't restart the heart after several minutes like we can now, so who told them what a NDE is like?

good question, the Egyptians were wise beyond our current knowledge, In the City Of Iwnw, there were venerable scholars, priests, and magicians attached to the great Temples, especially the Temple of Ra, amongst their titles were ' Keeper of Secrets, much knowledge has been lost I'm afraid.

K

 

[Kowalski]

Michel, the ancients were wonderful observers of the Night Skies, could carry out great engineering feats, had medicine, were skilled in the Arts, beyond even what can be accomplished today. To cut and raise an Obelisk was an amazing feat of engineering, acheived without the use of cranes, pulleys, drills and all the other modern stuff of engineering, and today, it took a fantastic amount of effort of eventually replicate the feat.

I stand in awe of them.

Cheers

K

 

[almifkhar]

i have a sneaking supession that we are mearly relearning things lost to us in the distant past. this is the aspect of the whole thing that has been bothering me for sometime. the ancients knew things that we are just starting to find out. yet around the beginning of the dark ages, all of this knowledge seemed to just disapear one day and slowly we are finding the knowledge again. and i have wondered why this has happened and why modern egyptologist continue to claim that the sacred writings of the ancients are mumbo jumbo.

 

[Kowalski]

Egyptologists are grounded in logical thought, and as such they do not want to enquire into the metephysical world of the Egyptians. On a brighter note, some enlightened scholars are beginning to anyalise the texts and to consider what they contain. So, there is hope for a slightly less pragmatic approach to Ancient Egypt.

Sadly, much knowledge was lost when Christian mobs attacked the Temples and burnt the Librarys therin. Perhaps the greatest losses occured in the City Of Iwnw, ( Heliopolis) which the being partially abandoned, was looted by the Romans.

K

 

[almifkhar]

the deeds of our ansesters are appalling. the did the same thing to the mayan and aztec sacred texts too. thugs of the church really destroyed valuable knowledge. i don't buy that it was done simply because of the "pagan" religious writings cause look how they supressed knowledge in the dark ages to eurpoeens. it is like they knew something but didn't want everyone else to know it too. and saddly we still don't know the the full scale of this knowledge. sounds like you are seriously intrested in the secrets of the ancients as well.

 

[Kowalski]

Oh, I agree, the destruction was wholesale and widespread. Indeed Cyril of Alexandria was responisble for the destruction of the Temple Of Seraphis, and the ending of the neo-platonists.
That Paganism was not as close minded as Christianity fully recorded by history.

The best way to hide knowledge is to destroy the records, and that's what happened. Whether anything new comes to light remains to be seen, but it is possible.

I am, indeed, very interested in ancient knowledge