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The children of Jesse

S-word

Well-Known Member
How many children did Jesse sire?
Apparently there aren't too many people in this forum who have read about King David's Father 'Jesse ', and his children.
 
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Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
He had 8 sons, but we only have 7 names of his sons. Number of daughters (if any) is uncertain.
 

S-word

Well-Known Member
The question was, how many children did Jesse sire.

We know from 1 Samuel 17: 12, that Jesse had eight sons. And from 1 Samuel 16, where Jesse presented his eight sons to Samuel in order of their ages, we know that David was the youngest of those sons, and yet there are only seven sons recorded in 1 Chronicles 2: 13-17.

In this same place in 1 Chronicles, it is said in the Hebrew, that David had two sisters, Zeruiah and Abigail. The Hebrew for sister, is "Achoth." If it had been the intention of the authors of the book of Chronicles for the girls to be seen as the daughters of Jesse, they would have used the Hebrew, "bath" for daughter.

But 'the sisters of David' has been erroneously interpreted by some more modern translations, as 'the Daughters of Jesse, when in fact it is revealed in 2 Samuel 17: 25, that Zeruiah and Abigail are the daughters of Nahash, who is believed to have ruled both Moab and Ammon at the time of Davids persucution by King Saul, and it was he who showed loving kindness to David, by offering protection in the land of Moab to his former concubine 'the mother of David' and her husband Jesse, who it would appear had lost his first wife who was the mother of his six other biological sons, Eliab, Abinadab, Shammah, Nethanel, Raddai and Ozem.

In the same place, in 2 Samuel, immediatly after the statement that Zeruiah and Abigail were the daughters of Nahash, the Bible speaks of 'Shobi' the son of 'Nahash the biological father of David's sisters.' Could it be that here, we find the missing 7th older brother of David, the one who is not recorded in the list of the biological sons of Jesse?
 
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sojourner

Annoyingly Progressive Since 2006
The question was, how many children did Jesse sire.

We know from 1 Samuel 17: 12, that Jesse had eight sons. And from 1 Samuel 16, where Jesse presented his eight sons to Samuel in order of their ages, we know that David was the youngest of those sons, and yet there are only seven sons recorded in 1 Chronicles 2: 13-17.

In this same place in 1 Chronicles, it is said in the Hebrew, that David had two sisters, Zeruiah and Abigail. The Hebrew for sister, is "Achoth." If it had been the intention of the authors of the book of Chronicles for the girls to be seen as the daughters of Jesse, they would have used the Hebrew, "bath" for daughter.

But 'the sisters of David' has been erroneously interpreted by some more modern translations, as 'the Daughters of Jesse, when in fact it is revealed in 2 Samuel 17: 25, that Zeruiah and Abigail are the daughters of Nahash, who is believed to have ruled both Moab and Ammon at the time of Davids persucution by King Saul, and it was he who showed loving kindness to David, by offering protection in the land of Moab to his former concubine 'the mother of David' and her husband Jesse, who it would appear had lost his first wife who was the mother of his six other biological sons, Eliab, Abinadab, Shammah, Nethanel, Raddai and Ozem.

In the same place, in 2 Samuel, immediatly after the statement that Zeruiah and Abigail were the daughters of Nahash, the Bible speaks of 'Shobi' the son of 'Nahash the biological father of David's sisters.' Could it be that here, we find the missing 7th older brother of David, the one who is not recorded in the list of the biological sons of Jesse?
Could be. We find many instances in the OT where things don't line up quite right, or the same occurrances told with different details.
 

S-word

Well-Known Member
Could be. We find many instances in the OT where things don't line up quite right, or the same occurrances told with different details.

Although, we disagree on many things, you might find this interesting. In the Book of Sirach, it is said that Ezekiel describes the cherubs. Now the cherubs are the representations of the chariot of God, but in what form are they represented? Are they lions or angelic like beings as we have seen depicted on the lid of the Ark of the Covenant by artists who are not familiar with the truth as revealed in God’s word?

In Ezekiel 1, he describes the living creatures that he saw by the river Chebar each one having four faces, a human face in front, a lions face at the right, a bulls face at the left, and an eagle’s face at the back.

Then in Ezekiel 10: 14, in describing the four faces of the same creatures that he had first seen by the river Chebar, this time he describes the four faces as, “The first was the face of a Cherub, the second a human face, the third the face of a lion, the fourth the face of an eagle.” In describing the faces of the same creatures as those that he had seen previously, he substitutes the face of the bull with that of a cherub, then in verse 22, to reinforce the fact that he is describing the image by which a cherub is depicted, he goes on to say, “Their faces looked exactly like the faces I had seen by the river Chebar.

Comets are associated with cherubs and the Milky Way is known as the pathway of the bull.
Psalms 18: 10, “And he rode upon a cherub and did fly upon the wings of the wind. He made darkness his secret place; his pavilion round about him were dark waters and thick clouds of the skies. At the brightness that was before him his thick clouds passed, hail stones and burning coals of fire, etc.”

From 2nd Maccabees 2, we are told that before the Babylonian invasion, Jeremiah had the Ark of the Covenant and the tent which is stored within the holy of holies of the new Temple, carried to the mountain upon which Moses was allowed to gaze on the promised inheritance, and there it was hidden and sealed in a cavernous chamber, where it will remain until the dazzling light of the Lord’s presence will again be seen in the cloud, as it was in the time of Moses.

But if you are reading from the Good News Bible, you will find that this secret has been lost as they, perhaps believing that and error had been made in the two different descriptions of the four faces, have brought chapter one and chapter ten into line by changing chapter ten which is that of the face of a cherub, to that of a bull.
 
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