Texas Law Banning Abortion After About Six Weeks Takes Effect

[tytlyf]

To bad you didn't read the rest of the abstract and just focused on a conclusion with a very narrow and ignorant viewpoint.

Too bad you didn't read the study you linked. I don't have to read the whole thing, I read the conclusion and findings. Which were the opposite of your intent.
I'll note you didn't mention these marvelous "abstracts" that you found.
Enlighten me, I'll play your nothing burger game again.

 

[Heyo]

Strange. I've seen many animals born and seen people born. I've never seen a woman give birth to anything but a person, just like sheep always give birth to sheep. If they ain't people, why do they have human DNA?

Because "person" is a legal construct. A fetus is a human, no question but it is not a person. A person has a name, is born and has rights, e.g. is eligible for child support. As @ecco already explained to you, when you can get a social security number for your fetus, it is a person.

 

[Wildswanderer]

Because "person" is a legal construct. A fetus is a human, no question but it is not a person. A person has a name, is born and has rights, e.g. is eligible for child support. As @ecco already explained to you, when you can get a social security number for your fetus, it is a person.

Such a silly definition of a person. " I'm so excited that I'm going to have a fetus!" Said no woman ever.

 

[ecco]

Strange. I've seen many animals born and seen people born. I've never seen a woman give birth to anything but a person, just like sheep always give birth to sheep. If they ain't people, why do they have human DNA?

You are well aware this is not about anything but proper usage of accepted English. A fetus is not a person.







fe·tus
/ˈfēdəs/
noun

1. an unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular an unborn human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

per·son
/ˈpərs(ə)n/

noun

1. 1.
   a human being regarded as an individual.

If you don't want to accept English definitions then I could refer to you as embryonic tissue.

The federal government does not issue social security numbers to fetuses, it does to persons.

Texas does not give welfare money to pregnant women for a fetus, it does to mothers of babies, infants, and children.

In point of fact, pregnant women are not referred to as mothers.

You can make up all sorts of definitions if you want to, but your definitions have no meaning.

 

[Wildswanderer]

1. human baby more than eight weeks after conception.

per·son
/ˈpərs(ə)n/

noun

1. 1.
   a human being regarded as an individual.

Thanks for proving my point.

 

[anna.]

In point of fact, pregnant women are not referred to as mothers.

You can make up all sorts of definitions if you want to, but your definitions have no meaning.

 

[ecco]

Such a silly definition of a person. " I'm so excited that I'm going to have a fetus!" Said no woman ever.

Oops! Was that a Freudian slip on your part? Did you just acknowledge that a pregnant woman is going to have a baby. GOING TO as in the future.

A pregnant woman is carrying a fetus.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Too bad you didn't read the study you linked. I don't have to read the whole thing, I read the conclusion and findings. Which were the opposite of your intent.
I'll note you didn't mention these marvelous "abstracts" that you found.
Enlighten me, I'll play your nothing burger game again.

Wonderful clairvoyance skills here.

I guess abstracts sourced by Live Science does not hold adequate enough sway.

It's really your problem. Not mine.

 

[tytlyf]

Wonderful clairvoyance skills here.

I guess abstracts sourced by Live Science does not hold adequate enough sway.

It's really your problem. Not mine.

You brought it up. And failed to mention 1. Don't waste my time.

 

[ecco]

Do I need to define the word "expectant" to you? It refers to the future.

In the future she may be the mother of a child.

 

[Twilight Hue]

You brought it up. And failed to mention 1. Don't waste my time.

Oh. I hadn't realized I brought up something that has been out there for awhile.

Oh, and my apologies, I meant BMJ prior to the Live Science science sourcing on the matter. A government site, just to clarify.

 

[anna.]

Do I need to define the word "expectant" to you? It refers to the future.

In the future she may be the mother of a child.

You said: "pregnant women are not referred to as mothers."

Point of fact: yes, they actually are. It's a very common term.

I've been an expectant mother three times. You?

 

[Heyo]

Such a silly definition of a person.

Lawyers aren't always fortunate with their definitions.

" I'm so excited that I'm going to have a fetus!" Said no woman ever.

So what do they say? " I'm so excited that I'm going to have a baby!". Yep. they are not having a baby yet, they are going to. Another of those words misused by the anti choice crowd. A fetus is not a baby and not a person.

 

[ecco]

Parts of this thread discussed the sensation of pain suffered by the fetus during an abortion. If that is a real concern, all births should be by Cesarean delivery. I would imagine being pushed toward the womb opening would be painful. I would imagine squeezing through a womb opening is very painful.

Perhaps we should all write to the Texas Legislators to insist on Cesarean delivery to prevent all that pain. It would probably be a good idea to send copies to members of the Supreme Court also.

 

[ecco]

You said: "pregnant women are not referred to as mothers."

Point of fact: yes, they actually are. It's a very common term.

I've been an expectant mother three times. You?

I guess someone does need to explain the meaning of the word "expectant" to you. But I won't waste my time.

 

[Kooky]

What about people living on government assistance? If you cannot afford to raise the kids you have now without financial help from the government, you cannot have more children. Seems reasonable.

Do you consider your government trustworthy enough to decide who is allowed to have children or not? Or are you putting yourself in the role of the person who would be deciding these issues for others?

 

[Kooky]

The baby is not to blame for how it's concieved.

Do you think its mother is to blame?

 

[anna.]

I guess someone does need to explain the meaning of the word "expectant" to you. But I won't waste my time.

No male needs to explain the term expectant mother to me, thanks. I've known many expectant mothers in my life and not one of them ever referred to her "fetus." As in, I've never been invited to a "fetus shower."

That's a term used in science and medicine - and by those who wish to dissociate themselves from the intended target of the abortion.

 

[Kooky]

No male needs to explain the term expectant mother to me, thanks. I've known many expectant mothers in my life and not one of them ever referred to her "fetus." As in, I've never been invited to a "fetus shower."

That's a term used in science and medicine - and by those who wish to dissociate themselves from the intended target of the abortion.

Do you believe that a woman should have a choice in being pregnant?

 

[Twilight Hue]

You said: "pregnant women are not referred to as mothers."

Point of fact: yes, they actually are. It's a very common term.

I've been an expectant mother three times. You?

To refer to an expectant woman as not a mother is a definite sign on how severely today's society has become cognitively hobbled and crippled.