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Some issues with the Orthodox summary--It's wrong

CMike

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My comments in blue

Orthodox Judaism is one of the three major branches of Judaism. Orthodoxy can roughly be classified into Modern Orthodox Judaism and Haredi Judaism (Hasidic Judaism is a subgroup within Haredi Judaism). It is characterized by:

* Strict adherence to Halakha (code/s of Jewish law).
* A range of beliefs towards modern culture which vary from careful acceptance of some parts of modernity, to outright rejection of parts of modernity considered immoral.
* A range of beliefs towards modern forms of historical scholarship and text study. Haredi and some Modern Orthodox Jews hold that almost all such forms of learning are forbidden and heretical (no they don't. These jews have nothing against historical scholarship). Other Modern Orthodox Jews hold that modern forms of historical scholarship and text study may be used in some or all areas of Jewish thought. Nothing wrong with studying history

* A traditional teaching and acceptance of the Jewish principles of faith.

Origin and definition of the name "Orthodox"

While many Orthodox Jews accept the label "Orthodox", others reject and are critical of it (as it was never traditionally applied to Jews in ancient times or the Middle Ages) and prefer to call their faith "Torah Judaism". Use of the "Orthodox" label seems to have begun towards the beginning of the 19th century. Rabbi Isaac Leeser seems to have been the first to use the term in the US in his journal "The Occident," whose target audience was the more "traditional" or Orthodox Jew. The word "orthodox" itself is derived from the Greek orthos meaning "straight" and doxa meaning "opinion".

The development of Orthodoxy

Like all modern denominations of Judaism, Orthodoxy is not identical in practice to the forms of Judaism that existed in the times of Moses, nor even identical to the Judaism which existed in the time of the Mishnah and Talmud. This is incorrect. Orthodox jews do believe that it's the same judaism as the time of Moses. Obviously, technology and circumstances of changed However, many Orthodox Jews maintain that contemporary Orthodox Judaism maintains the same basic philosophy and halachic framework that existed throughout Jewish history.More than the frameword and basic philosophy.

Orthodox Judaism, as it exists today, is considered by historians to have begun developing as a response to the Enlightenment in the late 1700s and early 1800s.That is rediculous. Orthodox judaism started with Abraham and was given more of a framework when they got the Torah, and had more detailed guidelines.

That it was started because of the enlightenment is utterly absurd This response was characterized by a continued strict adherence to Halakha, and it this commitment to Jewish tradition which distinguished (and distinguishes) Orthodox Judaism from other Jewish groupings at the time.Nonsense

In the early 1800s, elements within German Jewry sought to reform Jewish belief and practice in response to The Enlightenment and the emancipation. In light of modern scholarship, they denied divine authorship of the Torah, declared only those biblical laws concerning ethics to be binding, and stated that the rest of halakha (Jewish law) need no longer be viewed as normative (see Reform Judaism).That's not orthodox judaism

At the same time, there were those German Jews who actively maintained their traditions and adherence to Jewish law while simultaneously engaging with a post-Enlightenment society. This camp was best represented by the work and thought of Rabbi Samson Raphael Hirsch. Hirsch worked to reconcile traditional Judaism with the social realities of the modern age, which he termed "Torah im Derech Eretz". While insisting on strict adherence to Jewish beliefs and practices, he encouraged secular studies, including history and modern philosophy; he also encouraged limited integration into the non-Jewish community. This form of Judaism was termed "neo-Orthodoxy", which later developed into Modern Orthodox Judaism.What?

A larger segment of the Orthodox population disagreed, and took a stricter approach. Their motto was "Anything new is forbidden by Torah". Rediculous
For them, all innovations and modifications within Jewish law and custom come to a near halt. This form of Judaism is termed Haredi Judaism, or (controversially) Ultra-Orthodox Judaism.I am not Haredi, but calling them ultra orthodox is insulting. However, many adherents of Rabbi hirsch considered themself part of the Haredi world and joined Agudat Israel, but today that party is identified with the stricter approach.

Both approaches have proved resilient. It is estimated that presently there are more Jews studying in Yeshivot and Kollelim than at any other time in history. In 1915 Yeshiva College (later Yeshiva University) and its Rabbi Isaac Elchanan Rabbinical Seminary was established in New York City for training in a Modern Orthodox milieu.Yeshiva College is my alma mater Eventually a branch school was established in Los Angeles, CA. A number of other smaller but influential Orthodox seminaries, mostly Haredi, were also established throughout the country, most notably in New York City, Baltimore, Chicago. The Haredi yeshiva in Lakewood, New Jersey is the largest institution of its kind. There are similairly hundreds of Yeshivot in Israel, both Haredi and Modern Orthodox as represented by the Religious Zionist "Hesder" Yeshivot. There are also several important Haredi yeshivot in the United Kingdom. In general, a city with a sizeable Jewish population will today support at least one Yeshiva.

Beliefs

Orthodox Judaism is composed of different groups with intersecting beliefs, practices and theologies, and in their broad patterns, the Orthodox movements are very similar.

Orthodoxy, collectively, considers itself the only true heir to the Jewish tradition; most of it considers all other Jewish movements to be unacceptable deviations from tradition. Most Orthodox groups characterize non-Orthodox forms of Judaism as heresy; see Torah Judaism.Nonsense. They do not.

Within orthodoxy, the various groups maintain significant social differences, and differences in understanding halakha due to their varying attitudes concerning (a) the role of women in Judaism, (b) relations with non-Orthodox Jews, (c) attitudes toward modern culture and modern scholarship, and (d) how to relate to the State of Israel and Zionism.

Practices are largely standardised. All Sephardic Orthodox Jews base most of their practices on the Shulkhan Arukh, the 16th century legal index written by Rabbi Joseph Karo; All Ashkenazic Orthodox Jews base most of their practices on the Mappah, a commentary to the Shulkhan Arukh written by Rabbi Moses Isserles. In the postwar period, the Mishnah Berurah (a commentary on the "Orach Chayim" section) has become the authoritative halakhic guide for much of Orthodox Ashkenazic Jewry.Seriously? Who wrote this nonsense. All orthodox jews base their practices on what the Torah says, not regarding who wrote what shulchan arukh :eek:

Orthodox Judaism affirms monotheism, the belief in one God. Its members have varied beliefs about the nature of God, and no one understanding of the Deity is mandated. The belief about the understanding of G-D is pretty uniform.Among the beliefs affirmed are: Maimonidean rationalism; Kabbalistic mysticism; Hasidic panentheism. A few affirm limited theism (the theology elucidated by Gersonides in "The Wars of the Lord".) Religious naturalism (Reconstructionist theology) is regarded as heretical.

Orthodox Judaism maintains the traditional understanding of Jewish identity. A Jew is someone who was born to a Jewish mother, or who converts to Judaism in accordance with Jewish law and tradition. That is correct.Surprisingly Orthodoxy thus rejects patrilineal descent. Similarly, Orthodoxy does not allow intermarriage. Intermarriage is seen as a deliberate rejection of Judaism, and an intermarried person is effectively cut off from most of the Orthodox community.That is not true However, some Chabad Lubavitch and Modern Orthodox Jews do reach out to intermarried Jews.

Since there is no one unifying Orthodox body, there is no one official statement of principles of faith. Rather, each Orthodox group claims to be a non-exclusive heir to the received tradition of Jewish theology, usually affirming a literal acceptance of Maimonides's 13 principles as the only acceptable position. Some within Modern Orthodoxy take the more liberal position that these principles only represent one particular formulation of Jewish principles of faith, and that others are possible.

this is absurd. Maimonidies 13 principles is not the centerpiece of orthodox judaism.

Whomever wrote this did so from a very liberal bias.

The vast majority of this is factually untrue.
 
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Rakhel

Well-Known Member
Green Gaia did retrieve that info from Wiki(she did reference it at the bottom) and that may have been what it said at the time the summary was posted.
It was almost almost 9 years ago.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Green Gaia did retrieve that info from Wiki(she did reference it at the bottom) and that may have been what it said at the time the summary was posted.
It was almost almost 9 years ago.

I read the source. It's still wrong.
 

Tarheeler

Argumentative Curmudgeon
Premium Member
Just a suggestion: Rewite it in small sections here so everyone can read and/or comment on it. And after that we can compile it into a single post.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Just a suggestion: Rewite it in small sections here so everyone can read and/or comment on it. And after that we can compile it into a single post.

This is only part of it. This is from a site, and I took part of it.

Modern Judaism: Orthodox, Conservative and Progressive - Israel & Judaism Studies

Orthodox Judaism is distinguished by its maintenance of the traditional forms of worship in the Hebrew language, and of the traditional observances as prescribed by the Torah.

The Orthodox view is that the Biblical law may be developed and interpreted only by processes of reasoning which maintain respect for its Divine origin. These processes include the codification of the “Oral Law” in the Talmud from the third to the seventh centuries of the Common Era, and a continuing stream of books of interpretation and commentary, and rulings in individual cases.

Orthodox Judaism is not administered by any central authority. Synagogues are established by groups of Jews who raise their own funds and construct their own buildings. The congregation usually elects a voluntary board of management, which employs (and occasionally dismisses) rabbis and other officials.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
I'm going to work on writing up a summary.

I do request input especially from Orthodox Jews once I post it.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
This is what I have so far, what do you guys think?

Orthodox Judaism



Beliefs
The Oneness Of G-D
Orthodox jews believe that there is only one G-D. They believe that no one else or being has divine power. For example, in the traditional retelling of the story of Passover, although Moses had a central role, he is only mentioned once and only as a "humble servant". That is because all the miracles occurred because of G-D, not Moses.

The Mission

Orthodox jews believe that we have a good inclination and a bad inclination. They believe that not giving in to the temptation of the evil inclination is what brings us closer to G-D, which is the main goal for an orthodox jew.

Jews also also supposed to be a "light" or example to the other nations.

The Written Law (The Torah)

Orthodox jews believe in the Torah that was given to Moses on Mt. Sinai. The Torah consists of 613
commandments for jews to obey. Orthodox jews take the Torah literally and believe that it is perfect. Orthodox jews spent a great deal of time studying the Torah and analyzing it's life guidelines and moral messages.

The Torah consists of the five books of Moses. Whereas the Tanach consists of the five books of Moses plus prophets and scriptures. However, when orthodox jews speak of learning or studying Torah, since everything stems from The Torah, it refers to all jewish studies.


The Two Laws (Torahs)

There were two Torahs given to Moses on Mt. Sinai. There was the written Torah and the oral Torah.
The main purpose of the oral law is to explain the written law. For example, the written law states that G-D says that jews must keep the shabbos and not create during this time.
However, what is left out of the written law is when exactly shabbos starts and ends. What is considered creating is also missing. In order to implement keeping the sabbath, jews needed these answers. These explanations are given in the oral law.
Often the oral law consists of several rabbis discussing a topic. The rabbis give long winded arguements to support their position. At the end, these discussions are wrapped up. The Talmud is in aramaic and is difficult to study. There is also commentary and commentary on the commentary.
Many orthodox jews spend a lifetime studying the Talmud.
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/CMike11/media/Talmud2_zpse0e96980.jpg.html

The Sabbath

The highlight of the orthodox jews' week is the sabbath which comes from Friday night to Saturday night. A jewish day starts at night because in Genesis, G-D said he created night and then day. Therefore, the day starts at night.
Orthodox jews may not work, turn on or off lights, or drive on the sabbath.
Many busy professional Orthodox Jews use the sabbath as a catharsis to put aside their business and personal issues and just focus on G-D and relaxing.

The Sabbath services

The sabbath service starts Friday night. It's focus are prayers welcoming the sabbath.
The next day consists of morning services. The highlight of the service is the reading of the Torah. Each year on the Jewish New Year the Torah is started from the beginning and at the end of the year it's completed. Thereby the entire Torah is read each year.


The beginning of the service starts with prayers of psalms, the Shema (Hear O'Israel) prayer is read, followed by the Amidah. The Torah is then read. There are seven people who are called up to read passages from the Torah. Since the Torah has no vowels, and very difficult to read without a lot of training, usually there is someone who reads on behalf of each person.
After the Torah is read, usually passages from prophets are read. These prophets passages correspond with the theme of the chapters of the Torah that are read.
Afterwards, the remaining prayers are completed.
At the end of the services most orthodox services have a kiddush. They make a blessing over the wine and serve the traditional chulunt, it's a mixture of beef, beans, and potatoes, that is cooked overnight in a crock pot.
They then go home and often have a big meal, along with songs to honor the shabbos.




The yamaka, skull cap

Orthodox jews usually wear a skull cap or hat. The significance of it that it's a sign that G-D is always above us, watching us.


Why orthodox jews spell G-D, G-D, without fully spelling out the word
The word G-D isn't spelled out by orthodox jews. The reason for this is because of the concern that the paper with the word will be thrown out, erased, or destroyed. It is considered disrespectful toward G-D. To remedy the potential problem, orthodox jews don't write out G-D's name.



Israel

Israel has special significance to jews. Almost every jewish prayer involves Israel.



The Role of Women


Women like men are commanded to fulfill the commandments of knowing G-d, loving Him, and fearing Him, .

They are obligated to study the Torah just as men are. Orthodox synagogues usually have women learning groups.



The book of Psalms refers to women as "akeres habayis", a term which means the "foundation of the home". The woman determines the home environment.

Orthodox jews also believe that women have added wisdom that men don't have.

Also, in an Orthodox jewish marriage, women have the right to demand sex, whereas the man has no such right.

 
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dantech

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I think it's a good first draft. I have a few comments, but no time now. I will explain tomorrow
 

dantech

Well-Known Member
Long overdue, but here are the few comments I had.

This is what I have so far, what do you guys think?
[...]
The Mission

Orthodox jews believe that we have a good inclination and a bad inclination. They believe that not giving in to the temptation of the evil inclination is what brings us closer to G-D, which is the main goal for an orthodox jew.

Jews also also supposed to be a "light" or example to the other nations.

The Written Law (The Torah)

Orthodox jews believe in the Torah that was given to Moses on Mt. Sinai. The Torah consists of 613
commandments for jews to obey, as well as a historical account of God's revelation of Himself to our ancestors. Orthodox jews take the Torah literally and believe that it is perfect. Orthodox jews spent a great deal of time studying the Torah and analyzing it's life guidelines and moral messages.

The Torah consists of the five books of Moses. Whereas the Tanach consists of the five books of Moses plus prophets and scriptures. However, when orthodox jews speak of learning or studying Torah, since everything stems from The Torah, it refers to all jewish studies.


The Two Laws (Torahs)

There were two Torahs given to Moses on Mt. Sinai. There was the written Torah and the oral Torah.

Oddly enough, the Oral Law is today written in the Mishna and the Talmud. The reason why is because around 200 C.E., the Jewish community lost a lost of knowledgeable Jews during the great revolt, and so Rabbi Yehuda Hanassi decided to acquire the bits of knowledge that everyone still alive had, and compiled all the overwhelmingly matching accounts into the Mishna. Many Rabbis throughout history refused to write down the Oral Law, but it was a necessary step in preservation of our law.

The main purpose of the oral law is to explain the written law. For example, the written law states that G-D says that Jews must keep the shabbos and not create during this time.

However, what is left out of the written law is when exactly shabbos starts and ends. What is considered creating is also missing. In order to implement keeping the sabbath, Jews needed these answers. These explanations are given in the oral law.
Often the oral law consists of several rabbis discussing a topic. The rabbis give long winded arguments to support their position. At the end, these discussions are wrapped up. The Talmud is in Aramaic and is difficult to study. There is also commentary and commentary on the commentary.
Many orthodox Jews spend a lifetime studying the Talmud.
http://s941.photobucket.com/user/CMike11/media/Talmud2_zpse0e96980.jpg.html

The Sabbath

The highlight of the orthodox Jews' week is the sabbath which comes from Friday night to Saturday night. A Jewish day starts at night because in Genesis, G-D said he created night and then day. Therefore, the day starts at night.
Orthodox Jews may not work, turn on or off lights, or drive on the sabbath.
Many busy professional Orthodox Jews use the Sabbath as a catharsis to put aside their business and personal issues and just focus on G-D and relaxing.

The Sabbath services

The Sabbath service starts Friday night. It's focus are prayers welcoming the Sabbath.
The next day consists of morning services. The highlight of the service is the reading of the Torah. Each year on the Jewish New Year the Torah is started from the beginning and at the end of the year it's completed. Thereby the entire Torah is read each year.


The beginning of the service starts with prayers of psalms, the Shema (Hear O'Israel) prayer is read, followed by the Amidah. The Torah is then read. There are seven people who are called up to read passages from the Torah. Since the Torah has no vowels, and very difficult to read without a lot of training, usually there is someone who reads on behalf of each person.
After the Torah is read, usually passages from prophets are read. These prophets passages correspond with the theme of the chapters of the Torah that are read.
Afterwards, the remaining prayers are completed.
At the end of the services most orthodox services have a kiddush. They make a blessing over the wine and serve the traditional chulunt, it's a mixture of beef, beans, and potatoes, that is cooked overnight in a crock pot.
They then go home and often have a big meal, along with songs to honor the Sabbath.




The yamaka, skull cap

Orthodox Jews usually wear a skull cap or hat. The significance of it that it's a sign that G-D is always above us, watching us.


Why orthodox Jews spell G-D, G-D, without fully spelling out the word
The word G-D isn't spelled out by orthodox Jews. The reason for this is because of the concern that the paper with the word will be thrown out, erased, or destroyed. It is considered disrespectful toward G-D. To remedy the potential problem, orthodox Jews don't write out G-D's name. On paper. On a computer screen there is absolutely no problem since it is just a bunch of pixels that are refreshed 60+ times per minute. Other wise God's name would be erased and rewritten on the screen 60+ times every minute. Because of the possibility of someone printing out what I wrote and then defacing it, Orthodox Jews tend to refrain from actually typing in one of God's name on the computer as well. However, "God" is not a name of our God, it is a title so there is no issue in writing the actual word "GOD" on paper or on a computer



Israel

Israel has special significance to Jews. Almost every Jewish prayer involves Israel.



The Role of Women


Women like men are commanded to fulfill the commandments of knowing G-d, loving Him, and fearing Him, .

They are obligated to study the Torah just as men are. Orthodox synagogues usually have women learning groups.



The book of Psalms refers to women as "akeres habayis", a term which means the "foundation of the home". The woman determines the home environment.

Orthodox Jews also believe that women have added wisdom that men don't have.I wouldn't say wisdom as much as I would say a holy connection to God, that men don't have. More specifically, in their ability to create life.

Men need to pray three times a day to connect to the cycle of the days, weeks, and months that will make the transitions from season to season. Women don't need to do so because they are already connected to God, with their reproductive system. The amount of effort that a woman takes to purify herself with/after her period shows just how holy a woman can be.


Also, in an Orthodox Jewish marriage, women have the right to demand sex, whereas the man has no such right.Not only that, but it is the man's responsibility to satisfy his wife so that she doesn't get to the point where she needs to demand sex.

 
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