Scitso's perception thread

[scitsofreaky]

Yeah, that's right, I own this tread.
Can we percieve an absolute truth? If so, how do we know it is absolute?

*Thanks to Sunstone, without you this thread wouldn't be possible.

 

[Sunstone]

A direct perception of absolute truth would be a mystical experience, wouldn't it? I'm not sure it could be verified independently of the person who experienced it.

 

[Pah]

A direct perception of absolute truth would be a mystical experience, wouldn't it? I'm not sure it could be verified independently of the person who experienced it.

Exactly - all thoughts of anything abosulte is purely subjective

 

[dan]

Descarte doubted everything until he arrived at something that could not be doubted: Cogito ergo sum (I think, therefore I am). Upon this absolute truth he found a foundation for all truth. This thought is relatively easy to perceive, and hardly subjective.

 

[BUDDY]

Yeah, that's right, I own this tread.
Can we percieve an absolute truth? If so, how do we know it is absolute?

*Thanks to Sunstone, without you this thread wouldn't be possible.

We perceive absolute truth only by observing absolute evidence, don't we? For example, I know that I will one day die, because everything eventually dies and has since the dawn of existence.

 

[Pussyfoot Mouse]

An absolute truth is an absolute belief!

 

[Pah]

We perceive absolute truth only by observing absolute evidence, don't we? For example, I know that I will one day die, because everything eventually dies and has since the dawn of existence.

Descarte doubted everything until he arrived at something that could not be doubted: Cogito ergo sum (I think, therefore I am). Upon this absolute truth he found a foundation for all truth. This thought is relatively easy to perceive, and hardly subjective.

Both of these involve a process of the brain. "Percive" is used in both.

 

[dan]

Both of these involve a process of the brain. "Percive" is used in both.

Then you render the question unanswerable by definition.

 

[Pah]

Both of these involve a process of the brain. "Percive" is used in both.

Then you render the question unanswerable by definition.

Not really! "Can we percieve an absolute truth? If so, how do we know it is absolute?" is answered. Yes, you can percieve a truth; no, it is not absolute.

 

[Quiddity]

It will help if the word "absolute" is defined in regards to the topic.

~Victor

 

[Pah]

It will help if the word "absolute" is defined in regards to the topic.

~Victor

Would you care to "float" a definition?

 

[dan]

Not really! "Can we percieve an absolute truth? If so, how do we know it is absolute?" is answered. Yes, you can percieve a truth; no, it is not absolute.

I'll amend my statement: your definition of terms answers the question automatically, thereby rendering it meaningless.

 

[Pah]

I'll amend my statement: your definition of terms answers the question automatically, thereby rendering it meaningless.

Yeah - I guess it is definitional but people persist in thinking that absolute is objective

 

[dan]

What can you do?

 

[scitsofreaky]

Both of these involve a process of the brain. "Percive" is used in both.

I disagree, I think we percieve with our minds as opposed to our brains. Our brains are just tangles of neurons and chemicals, and while you can watch the reactions occur in the brain, there is no way of telling what is being thought. Perception is the bias our thought processes have, and I have never heard of a way to emirically observe a thought process, just the chemical processes that occur during a thought.

An absolute truth is an absolute belief!

Interesting. Can a belief be truth? If so, what is the difference when it comes to absolute truth/belief?