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Not much to discuss. Theistic Satanists are amoral as a rule -- realizing the fact that nothing is truly right and wrong in nature and they do as they see fit. Society has a collection of laws designed to control the herd and provide and illusion of safety, but lets face it -- IF someone wants to kill you the cops get there when you have already been wounded or killed. Satanists just don't bite off more than they can chew -- they realize there are times to break and follow the law, but are well aware of the consequences of their actions. This contrasts with nearly every other religion that paints itself into the corner with these types of things. That doesn't mean of course that you can do what you want at all points as some things are just plain stupid to do.
Contrasting religions like Christianity have "thou shall not kill", but without exclusions -- and it is completely unrealistic. Do you kill the people whom would see you dead? Would it be right to steal if your choice is to die from starvation if you do not? What if you are forced to kill or steal by superiors in the military? Again... No exclusions... According to all Abrahamic religions and all eastern types you are completely screwed here. It doesn't matter if you killed in defense there are no exclusions other than the sweet nothings these crazy people tell themselves. Satanic morality is the real morality -- the rule of nature: The fit, strong, smart, sneaky, resourceful, and manipulative win vis-a-vis Machiavelli, Sun Tzu, and other great thinkers.
Sure, I'm summarizing a bit but it is actually the least complicated morality it is simply being honest with yourself. If morality means something like concern for others you won't really find much of it here. There is a rather antinomian and misanthropic nature to all beings whom embrace Satanism just due to the self cleansing processes we partake in to remove our limitations. Theistic Satanism embraces the bestial instincts of man and also the spiritual divine component, but rejects normal trivial humanity; compared to other groups that reject one of these concepts at the exclusion of another or are particularly fond of ignoring the human element. The complete meaningless and trivial nature in mainstream society is really what we reject. It is a cage for a dog, and even if you are rich it is still just a bigger cage.
Thank you very much.
So, Satanists are amoral.
You said: "The fit, strong, smart, sneaky, resourceful, and manipulative win"
Isn't that a bit immoral?
Do you Satanists believe in a creed of some sort?
Or of some scripture?
Do you literally believe in the existence of Satan or
are you just emulating his supposed qualities?
I myself am amoral. I just want to learn about your perspectives.
P.S. Do you do witchcraft?
Not much to discuss. Theistic Satanists are amoral as a rule
Do you Satanists believe in a creed of some sort?
NoOr of some scripture?
Yes and no/depends who you askDo you literally believe in the existence of Satan or
are you just emulating his supposed qualities?
impossible to be amoralI myself am amoral. I just want to learn about your perspectives.
define witchraftP.S. Do you do witchcraft?
I only had to read these two lines to know that your whole post was wrong... unless you mean relativistic morality, which isn't even the rule either.amorality is kind of impossible for a person as we naturally judge and make our own subjective morality, which is about morals...
I'm not going to read more walls of text from you, your not concise enough. you've said otherwhere that human nature is correct.
if human nature is correct, can we not derive morality from our nature?
the fact is that you can know that most satanists are amoral. you might be, but I'm not amoral, niether are LaVeyans, or most forms of Satanism i know
its impossible to get along with much of anything without some form of ethics and codes of behavior, even if minimalistic.
having morality and ethics doesn't make you right hand path, the left hand path is just a different approach to morality and magick, not the absence of morality
Nah, you have to believe in morality to be immoral. We're only villains by necessity and that isn't technically the same thing.
impossible to be amoral
Actually, amorality is posible with the right mental ilnesses.
It´s called sociophaty I think.
I see ethics and morality as essentially the same thing. perhaps you see it differently, idk.
Perhaps I have been using the wrong definition of morality.
Ethics in the practice of Left-Hand Path Magic should be considered by the well disciplined practicioner. For instance, I see no need in going around cursing every one who crosses me or gives me a nasty look. One of my mottos is "forgive but never forget". However, if a person continues to cross me even after I ask them to stop, or if violence is threatened or perpetrated against me or a loved one then an act of vengeance is quite appropriate and even necessary IMO. What form this act of vengeance takes is up to the individual. For me personally, I no longer curse and tell.
Xeper.
/Adramelek\