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Rubbish covered lake brings to light Balkans waste problem

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Stevicus, Jan 26, 2021.

  1. Stevicus

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    Rubbish-covered lake brings to light Balkans waste problem (apnews.com)

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    The article notes that these countries have been trying to recover from the wars and crises of the 1990s, but that environmental issues have been coming last.

    The article notes that landfills are too close to rivers and are overfilled.

    The article also mentioned that there are dangerous levels of air pollution in the cities. They say that they need to make some major changes and come up with solutions to these problems if they're ever going to be able to join the EU.
     
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    Very depressing.
     
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    I suggest adding lime to the lake to help kill the stench and also whatever tormented creatures are evolving to eat trash. The lime will help to prevent disease from spreading through the trash/insects and other creatures.

    After they lime the lake they can melt most of the plastic floating on top of it using special purpose floating machines equipped with torches or sunlight concentrators (magnifying lenses or mirrors), so that the floating plastic turns into chunks of plastic. It may sink and will at least become more compact.

    To design the system they can hold a competition at some of the local university engineering clubs. Let the students come up with systems to automatically melt the plastic together into blocks.

    Finally once the lake has been limed and the plastic compacted, they can begin the process of recycling the stuff in the lake and then detoxifying the water. This will all take about 20 years which is not terrible in terms of time, and it could be very inspirational, too.
     
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  4. Twilight Hue

    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    It does show the value of recycling.
     
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    Its pretty shocking. I'd feel defeated if I had to deal with so much trash.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    I blame a lot of it on planned obsolescence.
     
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    ...an unfortunate feature of price based competition since the year 19something. Things are no longer built to last, because that is less profitable for manufacturers than building them to fail. They also can build things to different strengths to take advantage of levels in the market. Some will pay extra for that professional grade (longer lasting) product.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    I hate planned obsolescence because its being taken advantaged of well beyond reason.

    Cell phones for example that are perfectly fine, are made into worthless trash because some brainac thought it genius to have the battery permanently sealed inside making it worthless after a couple of years because it no longer holds a proper charge.
     
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    The situation is not hopeless, but we all have different ideas about how it should be changed.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    The biggest issues lay with Asia. Most of the world's garbage comes from there.
     
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    I tend to see Congress as the key to everything, but sure we can start with 'Asia'. :) First we move the US Congress to Asia. Then they fix everything there. Sound like a plan?
     
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    Sounds good to me. Let @Audie deal with them. ;)
     
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    She only laughs because she thinks we are joking.
     
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    It's not just that, but they seem to keep making new and better versions, so people feel inclined to dispose of their old phone and get the latest upgrade. They have a box you can put your old phone into, where they supposedly recycle it. But I'm not sure what they actually do with it. Some of this stuff becomes obsolete in just a short time.

    I remember an old machine that ran on Windows 3.1. I think it had a 14.4 modem. Those devices didn't break down or suddenly stop working, but as the technology improved and software required more and more memory, the older machines just couldn't cut it.

    Then there's printers, where sometimes the ink can cost more than the price of a new printer. Electronics may be cheap, but these inksters have quite a racket going.

    So, in addition to phones, there's likely a lot of junk computers and junk printers out there as well.
     
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    Twilight Hue The gentle embrace of twilight has become my guide

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    Its funny we know the major source but....

    Most Ocean Pollution Comes From Asian Rivers, Study Says
     
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