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Revelation, the last book of the bible. Written for first century Christians?

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Two schools of thought.
Revelation was writen by John while in exile for the first century Christians. It was writen in a code
describing the oppressive, corrosive, Roman occupation giving instruction to those early Christians.
Revelation was writen for the Christians living today describing the "end of days" , "the end times",
"the conclusion of this system of mankind governing mankind" and promising an end to wars, oppression,
and hailing a new age soon to come ruled by Christ thru God.
So the question is was the book writen for the audience of ancient times or does the book have direct
bearing on events we are witnessing now?
 
Two schools of thought.
Revelation was writen by John while in exile for the first century Christians. It was writen in a code
describing the oppressive, corrosive, Roman occupation giving instruction to those early Christians.
Revelation was writen for the Christians living today describing the "end of days" , "the end times",
"the conclusion of this system of mankind governing mankind" and promising an end to wars, oppression,
and hailing a new age soon to come ruled by Christ thru God.
So the question is was the book writen for the audience of ancient times or does the book have direct
bearing on events we are witnessing now?

REVELATION TO JOHN

The last book of the Bible as arranged in most translations, though not the last written. It is also called the Apocalypse of John the Apostle.

Writer, and When and Where Written. The apostle John names himself as the writer of the book and designates the place of writing as the island of Patmos, where John was in exile at the time for being a preacher of God’s Word and a witness of Jesus Christ. (Re 1:1, 9) The time of writing was possibly about 96 C.E.

Style and Appropriateness. The book is in letter form, detailing a series of visions set forth in a proper order in regular progression, finally coming to the climactic vision. It supplies a fitting conclusion to the entire Bible.

The book seems to proceed on the basis of series of sevens. Seven seals open into the blowing of seven trumpets, then into seven plagues. There are seven lampstands, seven stars, seven thunders, and many other things by sevens, evidently because the number seven here represents completeness, and the book deals with the completion of the sacred secret of God.—Re 10:7; see SACRED SECRET.

Author and Channel. Jehovah God the Almighty is the book’s author, and the channel of information is Jesus Christ, who sent it to John and presented it to him by means of his angel. (Re 1:1) The spirit of God is represented as being sevenfold, hence acting in its fullest capacity to convey this disclosure. John was given divine command to write.—1:4, 11.

Purpose. While some of the things seen by John in the vision may seem terrifying—the beasts, the woes, the plagues—the book was written, not to terrify, but to comfort and encourage those who read it with faith. It can lead the reader to blessings. In fact, the writer of the book states at the outset: “Happy [“blessed,” KJ] is he who reads aloud and those who hear the words of this prophecy, and who observe the things written in it.” (Re 1:3) John also says that the book is for the purpose of showing God’s slaves the things that “must shortly take place.”—1:1, 2.

Bears Witness to Jesus. In Revelation 19:10, the angel tells John: “The bearing witness to Jesus is what inspires prophesying [literally, “is the spirit of the prophecy”].” That is, the intent and purpose of all prophecy is to point to Jesus Christ. This does not mean that Jehovah God is bypassed or ignored. Earlier in verse 10 the angel had told John, who fell down before him: “Worship God,” and the apostle Paul had said that “God exalted [Christ] to a superior position and kindly gave him the name that is above every other name, so that in the name of Jesus every knee should bend of those in heaven and those on earth and those under the ground, and every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.” Magnifying Jesus Christ, therefore, and getting acquainted with the knowledge of him result in a better knowledge of God and His purposes, thereby giving the glory to God above all.—Php 2:9-11; see PROPHECY.

The reason why prophecy bears witness to Jesus is that Jesus is the one through whom God accomplishes his purposes in sanctifying his name, destroying wickedness, and blessing mankind. “Carefully concealed in him [Christ] are all the treasures of wisdom and of knowledge.” (Col 2:3) He is the Seed of promise, the One in whom the sacred secret is revealed. From the very beginning of God’s dealings with men following Adam’s rebellion, God has caused Christ to be foretold and foreshadowed and has pointed men to the Kingdom of God in the hands of his Son.—Ge 3:15; 22:18; Ga 3:16; 2Sa 7:12-16;Ps 2:6-12; 110:1-7; Eze 21:27; Acts 2:29, 36; 3:19-26; 1Ti 3:16.

In simple language, what is the meaning of “Revelation”?

The opening chapter of the book concluding the Bible introduces us to the One over all, the Originator of the Revelation message, Jehovah God the Almighty, “the Alpha and the Omega.” It gives a vision of the Channel of the communication, Jesus Christ, showing him as having died but now being alive, in great power in heaven. The sharers with him in his tribulation and in the Kingdom are next brought into view, and Christ’s interest in them and loving-kindness toward them are displayed in his messages to “the angels” of the seven congregations.—Re 1-3.

Then by the spirit of inspiration John is ushered into the heavens to begin seeing “the things that must take place.” He is given a vision of the throne of God and its surroundings, and he describes the One sitting upon it as glorious, supreme, throning in perfect sereneness and composure.—Re 4.

The glorious position of “the Lamb” of God, Jesus Christ, is portrayed as that of the one second only to Jehovah God, the only one in heaven and earth qualified to approach God to open up the revelation of God’s purpose. Attention is given to a warrior-king (apparently also Jesus) riding forth “conquering and to complete his conquest.” The result to earth, especially to God’s enemies, when this king begins his ride is shown and so is God’s purpose to avenge the blood of his people upon his enemies.—Re 5, 6.

How God views his servants on earth who have been chosen by him to share in the heavenly Kingdom is shown in his holding up destructive action until these servants are ‘sealed in their foreheads.’ The full number of sealed ones is revealed to be 144,000. Others not sealed, and unlimited as to number, who become servants of God and escape the destructiveness of “the great tribulation” are then shown. The judgments of God against various sections of his enemies on earth, as well as the fight that these enemies wage against his people, are related. This leads up to the efforts of the archenemy, the dragon Satan the Devil, to thwart God’s purpose to bring forth the “son, a male, who is to shepherd all the nations with an iron rod.” Next, wild beasts are seen, symbolizing instrumentalities that this archenemy uses to fight the remaining ones of the seed of the woman and to prevent the completion of the sealing work.—Re 7-13; see BEASTS, SYMBOLIC.

All these attempts of Satan utterly fail. The 144,000 are seen victorious, standing with the Lamb upon Mount Zion, displaying the name of the Father and of the Lamb on their foreheads, and singing as if a new song before the heavenly ones. After these and a “great crowd” of earthly associates are all gathered in “the harvest of the earth,” the time has arrived for the great “vine of the earth” to be trodden out in the winepress.—Re 14.

With another symbolism, God’s final judgments are portrayed. Seven angels are provided with seven bowls of God’s anger. They go forth to carry out this final work. One of the chief foes of God and of the “bride” of Christ comes in for attention, namely, “Babylon the Great, the mother of the harlots,” “the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.” Her alliance with the seven-headed beast collapses, the beast becoming enraged with her, eating her flesh, and burning her with fire. The mourning of those who made gain by their dealings with her is great, but heaven rejoices.—Re 15-18.

Babylon the Great, as “the mother of the harlots,” would logically make every attempt to seduce the “bride” of Christ to become unfaithful to her promised husband (2Co 11:2, 3;Eph 5:25-27) and thereby make her another harlot. Hence, the heavenly rejoicing is accentuated because Babylon the Great’s corrupting efforts have been frustrated. The great harlot is now out of the way, and the bride has gained the victory. She has prepared herself for her espoused One. Therefore it is time for the Lamb’s marriage to take place. All those invited to the marriage rejoice. Jehovah now begins a new epoch in his reign, the great harlot having disappeared as a rival to pure worship.—Re 19:1-10.

But God’s other enemies must come in for execution of judgment. The Bridegroom goes forth to complete his conquest, to rid the earth of all foes, political and otherwise. The destruction is thorough. Finally, the Devil, having experienced the defeat of all of his agents and instruments, is himself bound for the thousand years of Christ’s reign. The vision passes over this Millennial Reign for the moment to detail a judgment that comes at the end of the thousand years; the Devil is temporarily loosed, then, together with all those joining his attack on “the camp of the holy ones and the beloved city,” he is completely annihilated.—Re 19:11–20:10.

Turning back to events during the thousand years, the vision depicts the resurrection and judgment that take place under the rule of Christ and his bride, the New Jerusalem. The beauty and grandeur of this heavenly “city” is described, with the healing, life-giving benefits it brings to mankind.—Re 20:11–22:5.

In conclusion, Jehovah God speaks of ‘coming quickly with reward according to each one’s work.’ As “the faithful and true witness,” Jesus bears testimony to the completion of the sacred secret concerning the kingdom, saying: “I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright morning star.” He is David’s permanent heir, the eternal one in the Kingdom covenant and the one foretold at Numbers 24:17. All efforts by Satan, the wild beast, and Babylon the Great (Re 12:1-10; 17:3-14) have therefore been unable to prevent this “star” from rising out of the house of David to sit down on the throne in the heavens forever.—Re 22:6-16.

The spirit, the active force of God, along with “the bride,” extend the invitation to all hearing to take of life’s water free. With a final warning not to add to or take from the words of the prophecy, and a declaration of the nearness of his coming, Jesus closes the revelation; and John responds, “Amen! Come, Lord Jesus.”—Re 22:17-21.

The book of Revelation is of great importance in that it provides spiritual strength and insight for God’s people. It highlights God’s interest in the congregations of his people and the close and loving care that Jesus Christ exercises toward them as the Fine Shepherd. Jesus knows exactly what conditions prevail and what must be done. This is especially manifest in the first three chapters of the book.

Some persons view Revelation as being so highly symbolic that it cannot be understood, or they view it as being impractical. But Jehovah God wants his people to understand, and he caused the Bible to be written to be understood and to provide guidance for them. The key to understanding Revelation is the same as the key to understanding other parts of the Bible. The apostle Paul points to that key. After explaining that God reveals the hidden wisdom through his spirit, Paul says: “These things we also speak, not with words taught by human wisdom, but with those taught by the spirit, as we combine spiritual matters with spiritual words.” (1Co 2:8-13) If we search the Scriptures (and in some cases the customs and practices of those days), we find in them many of the things used as symbolisms in Revelation. By comparing these Scripture texts, we can often understand what the Revelation symbol means. It should be noted, however, that a term or expression may refer to or symbolize different things, according to the context in which it appears.


Revelation to John — Watchtower ONLINE LIBRARY
 

URAVIP2ME

Veteran Member
Two schools of thought.
Revelation was writen by John while in exile for the first century Christians. It was writen in a code
describing the oppressive, corrosive, Roman occupation giving instruction to those early Christians.
Revelation was writen for the Christians living today describing the "end of days" , "the end times",
"the conclusion of this system of mankind governing mankind" and promising an end to wars, oppression,
and hailing a new age soon to come ruled by Christ thru God.
So the question is was the book writen for the audience of ancient times or does the book have direct
bearing on events we are witnessing now?

Please note the setting or time frame for Revelation at Rev. 1:10 which is Not the first century but for our day or time frame.
 

BilliardsBall

Veteran Member
There are events in Revelation 2 and 3 which are known to have occurred in the first century via archaeology and history (like a persecution in a city) before the end of the 1st century but after 70 AD. See how good God is? That garbage about the Bible being written centuries after Christ is put to shame, but also the myth that the events of Revelation had to do with Nero and events hovering around 70 AD. Such a view is called "preterism" and says Revelation stuff is done.

It's for the future...
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
Yeah, Jesus already came back in 70 AD. Then the Millennium began. It ended in 1071 AD when Muslims kicked Christan butt in the Crusades.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
Two schools of thought.
Revelation was writen by John while in exile for the first century Christians. It was writen in a code
describing the oppressive, corrosive, Roman occupation giving instruction to those early Christians.
Revelation was writen for the Christians living today describing the "end of days" , "the end times",
"the conclusion of this system of mankind governing mankind" and promising an end to wars, oppression,
and hailing a new age soon to come ruled by Christ thru God.
So the question is was the book writen for the audience of ancient times or does the book have direct
bearing on events we are witnessing now?

Are you a Christian? Do you think John was filled with the Holy Spirit? If so, please pray for understanding and read it again.

If you're not a Christian or seriously exploring the Christian faith then it shouldn't matter what it says.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
There are those who believe similar to what Brian does and those who think future events were being predicted that have not yet occurred. I believe the latter. But many Christians believe in the premillennial way so you should pray, seek guidance from Christians you trust and make your own determination.
 

Brian Schuh

Well-Known Member
Are you a Christian? Do you think John was filled with the Holy Spirit? If so, please pray for understanding and read it again.

If you're not a Christian or seriously exploring the Christian faith then it shouldn't matter what it says.
Are you a Christian? Do you think John was filled with the Holy Spirit? If so, please pray for understanding and read it again.

If you're not a Christian or seriously exploring the Christian faith then it shouldn't matter what it says.
The interpretation of the Revelation as already fulfilled is called preterism. It is a fact that an army of angels appeared in the sky around 69-70 AD. This has been recorded by Jewish and Roman historians. Around that time many people witnessed many spirits in spiritual bodies coming out of graveyards in fulfillment of Daniel 12.
 

First Baseman

Retired athlete
The interpretation of the Revelation as already fulfilled is called preterism. It is a fact that an army of angels appeared in the sky around 69-70 AD. This has been recorded by Jewish and Roman historians. Around that time many people witnessed many spirits in spiritual bodies coming out of graveyards in fulfillment of Daniel 12.

I'm not arguing with you.I am encouraging jeager106 to pray and seek for himself so that he might find, as Jesus taught.

Sorry about the term mix up. I redact premillineal for preterism.
 

4consideration

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Premium Member
I read the rules. How did I break them? And what is a DIR thread? Does that stand for something?
DIR stand for Discuss Individual Religions. DIR locations are reserved for the use of people that are practicing the labelled religion. It is covered under Rule 10, which is why I linked to the rules.

I'm sorry if I jumped to an inaccurate conclusion. After reading your posts today, I was under the impression you are not Christian, and thought your comment was intended as a dig at Christianity. My apologies if you were posting in a respectful way.
 

savagewind

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Please note the setting or time frame for Revelation at Rev. 1:10 which is Not the first century but for our day or time frame.
Day meaning light. John 12:36
Believe in the light while you have the light, so that you may become children of light.

John 8:12

John 12:46

Ephesians 5:8

You might read Revelation 1:10 as this:

I was in the spirit unto the Lord's activity (day).......[because the Lord's work is accomplished in the day because he is light]
 
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