Reprehensible Refereces to Adolf Hitler

[angellous_evangellous]

Adolf Hitler is so notorious that, for most of us, he and his Nazi compatriots can be referred to as people and policies which are unquestionably evil.

That is, we all can agree - or should - that genocide based on race or ethnicity is evil, and we see in Hitler the awful consequences of a nation ignoring the rise of a tyrant who killed not only his own people, but sought to have his diabolical will imposed on all of Europe and possibly the entire world.

Calling someone a Nazi or a Hitler who does not embrace Nazism or the teachings of Hitler is therefore not only stupid but despicable and an insult to the memory of the millions of people that they killed, and the memory of those who died trying to free Europe from his tyranny and that of his allies.

 

[Valjean]

On the other hand, the history of Nationalism and the rise of Fascism in Europe are important historical lessons, and should be studied by every schoolchild. The psychology that allowed the ascedancy of fascist dictatorships is hard-wired into the human brain. To avoid continual historical re-iterations of the 1930s we must be familiar with the Authoritarian psychological type; with the experiments of Milgram and Zimbardo.
Anyone not completely familiar with these is, in my opinion, a potential frog-in-a-saucepan.

 

[Father Heathen]

It's Godwin's Law.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

It's Godwin's Law.

Reductio ad Hitlerum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[angellous_evangellous]

I prefer retardio ad Hitlerum.

 

[Joe_Stocks]

Doesn't this create an anti-intellectual position where if any person mentions Hitler or Nazism then he or she is shouted down irrespective of the content of the point being made?

 

[Wandered Off]

Hi Joe. This "venting" thread was inspired when a certain member was regularly calling other members Nazis for holding views with which that member disagreed - shouting them down irrespective of the content of the point being made.

Although I'm out of place speaking for A_E here, I don't think the position is that all discussion of Hitler or the Nazis is "verboten." From my past interactions with you on another forum, I know that you will be able to discuss those subjects without resorting to the tactics this thread was addressing, so feel free. :yes:

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Doesn't this create an anti-intellectual position where if any person mentions Hitler or Nazism then he or she is shouted down irrespective of the content of the point being made?

Reading the OP would be useful...

Calling someone a Nazi or a Hitler who does not embrace Nazism or the teachings of Hitler is therefore not only stupid but despicable and an insult to the memory of the millions of people that they killed, and the memory of those who died trying to free Europe from his tyranny and that of his allies.

Mentioning Hitler is not the same thing as calling someone a Hitler or a Nazi...

 

[lizskid]

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re·tard·ed

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dɪd/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-tahr-did]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation–adjective 1.characterized by retardation: a retarded child. –noun 2.(used with a plural verb

) mentally retarded persons collectively (usually prec. by the): new schools for the retarded.
[Origin: 1800–10; retard + -ed2

]

—Synonyms backward, disabled, handicapped.

As the parent of a retarded individual, I would appreciate your not using that word in connection with those who call others nazi or any such thing. My son would have much more sense. And he would spell it correctly.

 

[angellous_evangellous]

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re·tard·ed

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dɪd/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-tahr-did]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation–adjective 1.characterized by retardation: a retarded child. –noun 2.(used with a plural verb

) mentally retarded persons collectively (usually prec. by the): new schools for the retarded.
[Origin: 1800–10; retard + -ed2

]

—Synonyms backward, disabled, handicapped.

As the parent of a retarded individual, I would appreciate your not using that word in connection with those who call others nazi or any such thing. My son would have much more sense. And he would spell it correctly.

Done.

 

[Valjean]

Sometimes the reference is apt.
The mental defect that led to the Nazi atrocities is a part of normal human psychology, so it's no surprise when societies begin venturing down the same path. When this happens we should not hesitate to point this out for fear of being ridiculed for Godwinism [is that a word?].

 

[lizskid]

Done.

Thank you!

 

[wednesday]

Adolf Hitler is so notorious that, for most of us, he and his Nazi compatriots can be referred to as people and policies which are unquestionably evil.

That is, we all can agree - or should - that genocide based on race or ethnicity is evil, and we see in Hitler the awful consequences of a nation ignoring the rise of a tyrant who killed not only his own people, but sought to have his diabolical will imposed on all of Europe and possibly the entire world.

Calling someone a Nazi or a Hitler who does not embrace Nazism or the teachings of Hitler is therefore not only stupid but despicable and an insult to the memory of the millions of people that they killed, and the memory of those who died trying to free Europe from his tyranny and that of his allies.

It is true, btu often i hear it being thrown around such as ýou're a musical nazi" and comments of that sort referring to people being narrow minded. Do you consider such references offensive and insulting? I've never thought of such insults and sadly i've used the word on a few occasions to describe someones actions

On a semi-related topic what do you think of neo-nazis and Nazi groups committing atrocities and so forth.

Also do you think Nazi memorabilia is acceptable, i have a world war 2 german helmet, do you think its right to keep memories of Nazi Germany?

 

[angellous_evangellous]

Hitler is still used in arguments.

 

[dust1n]

Adolf Hitler is so notorious that, for most of us, he and his Nazi compatriots can be referred to as people and policies which are unquestionably evil.

That is, we all can agree - or should - that genocide based on race or ethnicity is evil, and we see in Hitler the awful consequences of a nation ignoring the rise of a tyrant who killed not only his own people, but sought to have his diabolical will imposed on all of Europe and possibly the entire world.

Calling someone a Nazi or a Hitler who does not embrace Nazism or the teachings of Hitler is therefore not only stupid but despicable and an insult to the memory of the millions of people that they killed, and the memory of those who died trying to free Europe from his tyranny and that of his allies.

Wait... wasn't Russia just as evil? They killed about 1.5 mil Ukrainians in the winter of '33.