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Raging hypocrisy of the Right

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
They cry about freedom of speech when private companies prevent them from spreading disinformation and hate speech on their platforms, but then turn around and toss the 1st amendment into the trash when it comes to pushing their religious/ideological agenda.

Book ban efforts surging in 2022, library association says

Now where has this happened before?

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SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
You know, for a country that continuously boasts about freedom of speech, you guys sure do have a lot of book bans.
Incidentally many have contributed to my own classroom reading. So thanks, for that??


Unrelated but did Ben Shapiro unironically defend the continued use of the long discredited and unscientific conversion therapy in the article you cited? The first one you linked, I mean?
It seems like it.
That’s just….wow.
Freedom to deny your sexual orientation is still freedom, I guess??? :shrug:
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
Whatever. The article mentions libraries being threatened over books they don't even have. That's both extreme in stupidity and ideology.
And conversation therapy is damaging, so, yeah, it falls under a different category, kind of like the Anarchist Cookbook (except that's a major danger to self as well as others).
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.

Yes, the Right and the Left both contribute to the "nanny state" that we've heard so much about in political threads.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
You know, for a country that continuously boasts about freedom of speech, you guys sure do have a lot of book bans.
Incidentally many have contributed to my own classroom reading. So thanks, for that??


Unrelated but did Ben Shapiro unironically defend the continued use of the long discredited and unscientific conversion therapy in the article you cited? The first one you linked, I mean?
It seems like it.
That’s just….wow.
Freedom to deny your sexual orientation is still freedom, I guess??? :shrug:
I personally think librarys should remain a bastion for the free exchange of information and literature that anyone can access and enjoy.

It should be inclusive not exclusive of whatever people put in print and the influence of politics should be the only thing banned here.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Yes, the Right and the Left both contribute to the "nanny state" that we've heard so much about in political threads.
Of course. It's a toxic trend that's ripping our freedoms apart. I hate and despise any politicians that engage in this cancer and will not support them unless they change their ways.
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
I personally think librarys should remain a bastion for the free exchange of information and literature that anyone can access and enjoy.

It should be inclusive not exclusive of whatever people put in print and the influence of politics should be the only thing banned here.
I wholeheartedly agree.
But schools generally tend to be more restrictive by virtue of being schools
Given that most who access said material will be minors by default.
Unless US schools allow pornography in their libraries?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Wow. US porn must be kinkier than I thought!

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Heh. Seriously National Geographic was one of my most favorite mags when I was in school.

I absolutely loved the maps and high altitude photography of various places in the world before Google world came out.

I would spend hours looking at them with a magnifier.

I would hate to see school librarys reduced to political choices with a narrow lens of choices for its students just because of subjects that some find lacking that others don't find lacking angers or upsets them for one reason or another.
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Whatever. The article mentions libraries being threatened over books they don't even have. That's both extreme in stupidity and ideology.
And conversation therapy is damaging, so, yeah, it falls under a different category, kind of like the Anarchist Cookbook (except that's a major danger to self as well as others).
I think people get over paranoid over things like 'indoctrination' and the like.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member

I certainly don't agree with anyone whos want to resort to censorship regardless of their political leanings.
That said, a lot of people to routinely abandon their values and principles when it comes to their own allegiances. For example, people who loudly denounce infidelity, fornication, etc. will suddenly go silent when someone on "their side" gets caught. Another example is that a lot of the people who screech about free speech and taunt others for being "offended snowflakes" would squeal with rage if they saw someone burning the flag.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber
I think people get over paranoid over things like 'indoctrination' and the like.
Most definitely that happens. That's why these LGBT books are getting banned. But that's misguided and misplaced.
The stuff you linked to is people crying over a dangerous and well condemned (by science and medicine) practice being banned. No different than banning cocaine and heroin in medications, especially to the general public.
 

Shaul

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Are they as hypocritical as RF posters who only criticize the right but never the left?
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Are they as hypocritical as RF posters who only criticize the right but never the left?
I can see criticism justified , but not when the critics do the exact same things themselves and further refuse to admit they do the same exact things in turn.
 
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