• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

Quranic Theme

Matheist

http://animist.net
The Religion for Environmental Stewardship

Do not spread ecological disorder on Earth after it has been reformed. (Quran 7:56)
Take only what you need and leave the land as you found it.

Lord said to the angels, "I am putting a khalif (environmental steward) on Earth,´ they said, ´Why put on it one who will cause corruption on it and shed blood" (Quran 2:30)​

The salvation from the Quran is to speak for all those who cannot speak for themselves (animals, plants etc) and to strive (jihad) against ecological disorder. We are trees, the Earth is our mother and every living creatures are our brothers and sisters. We're given this planet and should be grateful to it.

We have established you firmly on the earth and granted you your livelihood in it. Little you appreciate. (Quran 7:10)

35143024_2113677302182183_5371673188600119296_n.jpg

The main theme is to stop global warming and climate change. It is not participating in the cause of the Sixth Mass Extinctions, which kill our planet and all lives on it. Accordingly, it is for us not to obey bad rules and bad people.

IF good people
THEN disobey bad rules (forced justice)
ELSE bad people​


theme770.jpg

How much natural resources can we use for mankind?

Allah will test you with a river. Anyone who drinks from it is not with me. But anyone who does not taste it is with me — except for him who merely scoops up a little in his hand.´ But they drank from it — except for a few of them. (Quran 2:249)

27458971_2049445538605360_8123770755037473993_n.jpg


That Home of the Hereafter, We assign it [only] unto those who seek not arrogant oppression/political jurisprudence in the earth, nor yet corruption/ecological disorder, and the end is for the righteous/naturalist. (Quran 28:83)


For this, there are two contexts from the Quran:

Their Lord called out to them, "Did I not forbid you this tree and say to you, "[Human] Shaytan is an outright enemy to you"?" (Quran 7:22)

Eat freely from it wherever you will but do not cut down this tree and so become wrongdoers. (Quran 2:35)​

Whereas,
  1. Tree is the metaphor for Ecological Justice or Natural Justice;
  2. Human Shaytan refers to the Political Jurisprudence or Forced Justice.
Human Shaytan

Shaytans from both mankind and from the jinn, who inspire (schism) each other with delusions (unnature) by means of specious words (fallacious argument) — if your LordLaw (of Nature) had willed, they would not have done it, so abandon them and all they fabricate (forced justice, political jurisprudence). (6:112)

They belong neither to you nor to them. (58:14) It is they who are Shaytan's army. (58:19)

Human Iblees

Iblees. He was of the jinn and departed from the command of his LordLaw (of Nature). Then will you take him and his descendants as allies other than Me/Sunnatullah while they are enemies to you? (18:50)

Every one of Iblis"s regiments: arguing in it with one another, they will say, "By Allah/Sunnatullah/LordLaw of Nature, we were plainly misguided when We equated you with the LordLaw of all the worlds/NATURE. (26:95-98)

Which of you is mad? (68:6)

  • delusional. characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder.
  • Insanity. mental illness of such a severe nature that a person cannot distinguish fantasy (unnature) from reality (nature).
50708425_2277761332440445_2782912304117710848_n.jpg



Here what defines a Muslim and it has nothing to do with god or religion. Muslims are those who completely obey natural order or Ecological Citizens. The conventional Islam as we know today has diverted from the Quran and become the political Islam/Muslim.

Those who have iman (natural person) and do natural actions, and how few they are! (Quran 38:24)

The Arabs (Jurisprudence, الْأَعْرَابُ , al-aʿrābu) are the worst in rejection and hypocrisy, and more likely not to know "Islam". (Quran 9:97)

On that Day, We shall ask Hell, Are you now full? Hell will answer, Are there any more? (Quran 50:30)​

49007338_2257256507824261_3168650541106462720_n.jpg


The kafir is the unnaturalist.

They are told, "Do not cause corruption in the land," they say, "But we are reformers!" (Quran 2:11)
  1. Pharoah (Military, Banker, Governance)
  2. Haman (Media, Propagandist, Divide & Conquer)
  3. Qarun (Money, Capitalist, Technologist)
  4. Supporters: Idolatry, Neutral, Bystander, Peacemaker etc; "No one can terrorize a whole nation, unless we are all his accomplices." - Edward R. Murrow
27752508_2058707291012518_8358289749045393499_n.jpg


You can't walk with Nature's God and hold on to the devil, you can't serve two master's!

We said, "Go down from here as enemies to each other!" (Quran 2:36)

Any of you who takes them as friends is one of them. (Quran 5:51)


There is a good description of the Quranic Theme form the Avatar. The strive of any real Muslim is much like from that movie.

18767759_1935786333304615_1735807746717898546_n.jpg


When a community among them said, “Why do you give advice to people who Allah will destroy or punish with severe suffering (of climate change and mass extinctions)?” They said, “You must, in order to escape blame from your Lord, and perhaps they may be aware." (Quran 7:164)


IF good people
THEN preserve ecological order: Save Earth, save all lives.
ELSE criminal

Shall We then treat the Muslims (Ecological Citizens) like the Criminals? (Quran 68:35)
 
Last edited:

Matheist

http://animist.net
This demands much study.

absolutely ... and at least:

A. Philosophy
  1. Logic
  2. Quranic Metaphysics
  3. Quranic Epistemology
  4. Quranic Axiology

B. Political Jurisprudence
  1. The metaphor of Pharoah (world system; administration etc)
  2. The metaphor of Haman (jurisprudential system; law and morality etc)
  3. The metaphor of Qarun (economic system; and money creation etc)

C. Earth Jurisprudence: Earth jurisprudence is a philosophy of law and human governance that is based on the idea that humans are only one part of a wider community of beings and that the welfare of each member of that community is dependent on the welfare of the Earth as a whole; Earth jurisprudence - Wikipedia

D. Ecology & Environmental Engineering (Ecovillage)
 
Last edited:

Ellen Brown

Well-Known Member
absolutely ... and at least:

A. Philosophy
  1. Logic
  2. Quranic Metaphysics
  3. Quranic Epistemology
  4. Quranic Axiology

B. Political Jurisprudence
  1. The metaphor of Pharoah (world system; administration etc)
  2. The metaphor of Haman (jurisprudential system; law and morality etc)
  3. The metaphor of Qarun (economic system; and money creation etc)

C. Earth Jurisprudence: Earth jurisprudence is a philosophy of law and human governance that is based on the idea that humans are only one part of a wider community of beings and that the welfare of each member of that community is dependent on the welfare of the Earth as a whole; Earth jurisprudence - Wikipedia

D. Ecology & Environmental Engineering (Ecovillage)


If I survive that long ...
 

Matheist

http://animist.net
If I survive that long ...

Therefore:

I swear by your Lord that they will not be considered 'Muslims (conditional believers)' until they let you (Natural Person, People of Ibrahim, Messenger, Jurist, Expert) judge their disputes and then they will find nothing in their souls to prevent them from accepting your judgment, and surrender to it in total submission. (Quran 4:65)

O believers! Obey Allah (LordLaw of Nature) and obey His Messenger (Natural Person, People of Ibrahim, Messenger, Jurist, Expert) and do not let all your good deeds come to nothing. (Quran 47:33)​

Whereas, traits of Natural Person, People of Ibrahim, Messenger, Jurist, Expert:

Every nation has a Messenger and when their Messenger comes everything is decided between them justly (Ecological Justice). They are not wronged. (Quran 10:47)​
 
Last edited:
Top