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Pope Francis says world cannot turn 'a blind eye to racism'

Discussion in 'Catholic DIR' started by Steven Merten, Jun 14, 2020.

  1. Steven Merten

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    Pope Francis says world cannot turn 'a blind eye to racism'
    amid George Floyd protests


    https://abc7ny.com/religion/pope-francis-says-world-cannot-turn-a-blind-eye-to-racism/6228774/

    I am Catholic. I have heard that ten white families own all the wealth and land in Mexico. The rich whites will not sell any land to the poor indigenous people for them to live. I do hope Pope Francis ignites massive protests in Mexico and South America, to expose horrendous racial injustices down there, but I fear the Pope, who is a white South American himself, is turning a blind eye to the racial injustice in his own country and continent. It seems Pope Francis only desires to attack America, and has a blind eye to the massive racial injustices occurring in the rest of the world.
     
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    I remember the saying "a prophet has no honour in his own country". Could that be the reason of what you are saying?

    I do like this quote from your link:
    "My friends, we cannot tolerate or turn a blind eye to racism and exclusion in any form and yet claim to defend the sacredness of every human life,'' the pope said during his weekly Wednesday audience, held in the presence of bishops due to coronavirus restrictions on gatherings.

    It seems that the Pope does not tolerate "exclusion" in any form. It seems he includes all religions, atheism and humanism. That is wonderful, isn't it?
    Could it be, that this Pope starts something good, but that it might take some time, before we see results?
     
  3. Steven Merten

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    Hello stvdv,

    During the last papal election, the Catholic Church really wanted to elect an African Catholic as pope. They could not find an African who had the ‘proper qualifications’. I, a Catholic, was sad. I would have preferred an (indigenous) African Catholic Pope. The Church found a South American, who they did see as having the ‘proper qualifications’ to elect as Pope. Pope Francis is born of Italian parents who migrated to Argentina in 1929.

    So, stvdv, I really think the Vatican sees the Italian race as a chosen supreme race to lead Christ's Church. I do think that our Church works very hard for the 'exclusion' of races other than the Italian race, to sit in high positions of Catholic authority in the Church, like the Catholic Curia and papacy. Do you think I am just imagining this, or is there racism in the selection process of Catholic Curia and papacy?
     
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    Genesis 48:17
    When Joseph saw that his father had laid his right hand on Ephraim's head, this seemed wrong to him; so he took hold of his father's hand, to remove it from Ephraim's head to Manasseh's, saying, "That is not right, father; the other one is the first-born; lay your right hand on his head!" But his father resisted. "I know it, son," he said, "I know. That one too shall become a tribe, and he too shall be great. Nevertheless, his younger brother shall surpass him, and his descendants shall become a multitude of nations."

    Deuteronomy 33:13
    Of Joseph he said: "Blessed by the LORD is his land with the best of the skies above and of the abyss crouching beneath; With the best of the produce of the year, and the choicest sheaves of the months; With the finest gifts of the age-old mountains and the best from the timeless hills; With the best of the earth and its fullness, and the favor of him who dwells in the bush. These shall come upon the head of Joseph and upon the brow of the prince among his brothers, The majestic bull, his father's first-born, whose horns are those of the wild ox With which to gore the nations, even those at the ends of the earth." (These are the myriads of Ephraim, and these the thousands of Manasseh)


    Does anyone want to talk about Abraham’s great, great, grandson Ephraim? Ephraim’s descendants of today, bearing the blessing from God of racial advantage, is the huge elephant in the room, which we are presently faced with. The ‘Blessing of Abraham’ went to Isaac, then Jacob/Israel, then to Jacob’s grandson, Joseph’s son, Ephraim. The ‘Blessing of Abraham’ is: Myriads of descendants; great wealth; world dominant power; will grow to become a multitude of nations. Sorry ‘House of Judah’ descendants (the Jewish race of today) you were bypassed. The Jewish race, cast out of the Promised Land in 587 B.C, maintained their lineage to Abraham, to show Jesus’ lineage to king David. God cast the ‘House of Israel/Ephraim’ out of the Promised Land in 722 B.C., because of their massive sins, and scattered them to the nations, with their lineage lost in the masses, yet they still bear the ‘Blessing of Abraham’ today. Prophecy does not look good for God's, rogue, prodigal son, the descendants of Ephraim. Hosea 5:9 'Ephraim shall become a waste on the day of chastisement'.

    Jesus, and Old Testament authors, tell us that, races, other than 'the natural heirs' of Ephraim, will inherit the Kingdom of God.

    Isaiah 17:14
    The fortress shall vanish from Ephraim and dominion from Damascus; The remnant of Aram shall become like the glory of the Israelites- oracle of the LORD of hosts. On that day The glory of Jacob shall fade, and his full body shall grow thin. Like the reaper's mere armful of stalks, when he gathers the standing grain; Or as when one gleans the ears in the Valley of Rephaim. Only gleanings shall be left in it, as when an olive tree has been beaten-Two or three olives at the very top, four or five on its most fruitful branches-oracle of the LORD, the God of Israel. On that day people shall turn to their maker, their eyes shall look to the Holy One of Israel.

    Mathew 8:11
    Mark what I say! Many will come from the east and the west and will find a place at the banquet in the kingdom of God with Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, while the natural heirs of the kingdom will be driven out into the dark, Wailing will be heard there, and the grinding of teeth.

    Isaiah 10:20
    The Light of Israel will become a fire, the Holy One, a flame, That burns and consumes its briers and its thorns in a single day. And the glory of its forests and orchards will be consumed, soul and body, and it will be like a sick man who wastes away. And the remnant of the trees in his forest will be so few, that any child can record them.

    On that day The remnant of Israel, the survivors of the house of Jacob, will no more lean upon the one who struck them; But they will lean upon the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, in truth. A remnant will return, the remnant of Jacob, to the mighty God. Though your people, O Israel, were like the sand of the sea, Only a remnant of them will return; their destruction is decreed, as overflowing justice demands. For the Lord, the GOD of hosts, is about to carry out the destruction decreed in the midst of the whole land.
    Matthew 22:1
    Jesus again in reply spoke to them in parables, saying, The kingdom of heaven may be likened to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son. He dispatched his servants to summon the invited guests to the feast, but they refused to come. A second time he sent other servants, saying, 'Tell those invited: "Behold, I have prepared my banquet, my calves and fattened cattle are killed, and everything is ready; come to the feast."' Some ignored the invitation and went away, one to his farm, another to his business. The rest laid hold of his servants, mistreated them, and killed them.
    The king was enraged and sent his troops, destroyed those murderers, and burned their city. Then he said to his servants, 'The feast is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy to come. Go out, therefore, into the main roads and invite to the feast whomever you find.' The servants went out into the streets and gathered all they found, bad and good alike, and the hall was filled with guests.
    Rachel is the Matriarch of Ephraim's myriads of descendants today. Rachel is not the Matriarch of the Jewish race of today. Leah is the Matriarch of Judah and his descendants of the Jewish race of today. Brothers from other mothers tried to murder Rachel's son Joseph, and left Jacob's true love Rachel, painfully childless for most of her life. Jacob/Israel blessed his true love Rachel with myriads of children, posthumously, by bypassing his twelve sons, and placing the 'Blessing of Abraham' on Rachel's grandson, Ephraim.

    Jeremiah 31:15

    Thus says the LORD: In Ramah is heard the sound of sobbing. bitter weeping! Rachel mourns for her children, she refuses to be consoled for her children are no more!
     
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    Pope Francis on the death of George Floyd:
    We cannot tolerate racism and claim to defend life

    “We cannot tolerate or turn a blind eye to racism and exclusion in any form and yet claim to defend the sacredness of every human life,” the pope said.

    Francis is well aware that a sizable number of Catholics and other Christians in the United States limit the defense of “the sacredness of human life” mainly to abortion
    , but do not view racism, the death penalty or other forms of exclusion—like mistreatment of migrants—as life issues. In today’s message, the pope underlined the full teaching of the church regarding “the defense of the sacredness of every human life” as expressed in the Second Vatican Council. He does not want this teaching to be reduced and manipulated for political or ideological reasons.
    Pope Francis on the death of George Floyd: We cannot tolerate racism and claim to defend life

    So what is Pope Francis, and his leadership of 1.3 billion Catholics, doing to 'defend the sacredness of every human life’? Jesus tells us He is going to burn in hell those Christians, (and of course anyone), who do not properly care for the poor. To love Jesus is to obey Jesus. Jesus makes it clear that the Rich Man in His Lazarus story has not 'defended the sacredness of every human life', and caused the death of Lazarus, through lack of charity. Has Pope Francis spoken out against evil Catholics, and other people, who are not properly tithing to care for the poor? I, as a Pro-Life Catholic, and American citizen, feel I have been specifically, politically, targeted by Pope Francis, rather than Pope Francis leading Christ's Church to love Jesus, by tithing out of love for Jesus through the least of Jesus' brothers, to care for the poor.

    Luke 16:19 The Rich Man and Lazarus
    "There was a rich man who dressed in purple garments and fine linen and dined sumptuously each day. And lying at his door was a poor man named Lazarus, covered with sores, who would gladly have eaten his fill of the scraps that fell from the rich man's table. Dogs even used to come and lick his sores. When the poor man died, he was carried away by angels to the bosom of Abraham. The rich man also died and was buried, and from the netherworld, where he was in torment, he raised his eyes and saw Abraham far off and Lazarus at his side. And he cried out, 'Father Abraham, have pity on me. Send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am suffering torment in these flames.' Abraham replied, 'My child, remember that you received what was good during your lifetime while Lazarus likewise received what was bad; but now he is comforted here, whereas you are tormented. Moreover, between us and you a great chasm is established to prevent anyone from crossing who might wish to go from our side to yours or from your side to ours.' He said, 'Then I beg you, father, send him to my father's house, for I have five brothers, so that he may warn them, lest they too come to this place of torment.' But Abraham replied, 'They have Moses and the prophets. Let them listen to them.' He said, 'Oh no, father Abraham, but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.' Then Abraham said, 'If they will not listen to Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded if someone should rise from the dead.'"


    Matthew 25:31
    "When the Son of Man comes in his glory, and all the angels with him, he will sit upon his glorious throne, and all the nations will be assembled before him. And he will separate them one from another, as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. He will place the sheep on his right and the goats on his left. Then the king will say to those on his right, 'Come, you who are blessed by my Father. Inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me drink, a stranger and you welcomed me, naked and you clothed me, ill and you cared for me, in prison and you visited me.' Then the righteous will answer him and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you drink? When did we see you a stranger and welcome you, or naked and clothe you? When did we see you ill or in prison, and visit you?' And the king will say to them in reply, 'Amen, I say to you, whatever you did for one of these least brothers of mine, you did for me.' Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you accursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me no food, I was thirsty and you gave me no drink, a stranger and you gave me no welcome, naked and you gave me no clothing, ill and in prison, and you did not care for me.' Then they will answer and say, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or naked or ill or in prison, and not minister to your needs?' He will answer them, 'Amen, I say to you, what you did not do for one of these least ones, you did not do for me.' And these will go off to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life."

     
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    You seem to be presenting a disingenuously simple critique of what is often a complex issue, here confusing two different things: the monopolization of wealth with a bias against others of a different race. I think that if what you say is true, it would seem more like monopolization of land wealth is the issue, rather than racism, because monopolization would hurt lesser whites as much as it would hurt non-whites.

    In any case, I can't really believe that anyone is precluded from buying property, as it is possible for anyone to buy land in Mexico at a price. Ownership costs are not cheap. More likely the indigenous people can't afford to buy property, but that is symtomatic of countries the world over, where property ownership is the preserve of the middle classes and the rich. In any case, even if the poor owned the land, the likelihood is that they would be tempted to sell it for a better life.

    The problem with playing the "race" card without merit is that, if you are not careful, you only end up fomenting racial tensions and creating more poverty rather than presenting solutions. Zimbabwe only became a basket case economy after the whites were forcibly ejected from power. Now its economy is dependent on the chinese.
     
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