Poland proposes "peacekeeping" mission to Ukraine

[Orbit]

What exactly does "peacekeeping" entail? Might this introduce complications to the situation? If NATO-allied troops are fired on, does that escalate to WWIII?

Poland to propose Ukraine peacekeeping mission at NATO summit, says PM

 

[Orbit]

I found this about peacekeeping, but it doesn't seem possible in Ukraine
What is peacekeeping

 

[sun rise]

It's not 'peacekeeping' but something else

Poland is not calling for a mission that would involve “getting into direct conflict with Russia”, he clarified. It would be based on the idea of “stationing in parts of Ukraine that are not currently occupied” and protecting it against further Russian activities with the aim of “sending a clear signal that there is no acceptance for war crimes”.
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Kaczyński declared that he sees a need for a mission of a NATO or even broader international coalition, which would be in power “to defend itself and act on the territory of Ukraine”. This mission would not be unarmed, he added: “It will strive for peace and providing humanitarian aid but at the same time it will be shielded by armed forces.”

 

[Stevicus]

What exactly does "peacekeeping" entail?

I think the Organians' approach to peacekeeping would be successful.

"All instruments of violence on this planet now radiate a temperature of three hundred and fifty degrees."

 

[Yazata]

What exactly does "peacekeeping" entail? Might this introduce complications to the situation? If NATO-allied troops are fired on, does that escalate to WWIII?

Poland to propose Ukraine peacekeeping mission at NATO summit, says PM

I think that the US and NATO have a variety of options, ranging from doing nothing to sending in their militaries to fight on the side of the Ukrainians. Most of those options aren't very attractive.

Putting NATO troops in Lviv and other Ukrainian cities west of Kyiv that the Russians haven't yet attacked as a deterrent against the Russians attacking them would be hugely risky. It would depend on the Russians taking the hint and restraining in order to avoid war with NATO, otherwise we would have that larger war (which might conceivably go nuclear).

Perhaps a better plan might be a step-up of what's happening now. Don't put any NATO soldiers in Ukraine. But step up assistance to Ukraine to enable them to fight more effectively for themselves. Send in the MIGs. Send them surface to air missiles with longer ranges than little shoulder fired Stingers. Maybe send in more armed drones. (The Ukrainians have been using Turkish-made drones to great effect.)

The difficulty there is that most of the more effective weapons systems take some training time before soldiers unfamiliar with them become proficient in their use. That's why the MIGs are in play, because Ukraine already has pilots skilled in flying that particular aircraft.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Poland is the only smart and practical country in this picture so far.

Send in the peacekeepers. The smurfs are doing squat.

 

[We Never Know]

It's not 'peacekeeping' but something else

Poland is not calling for a mission that would involve “getting into direct conflict with Russia”, he clarified. It would be based on the idea of “stationing in parts of Ukraine that are not currently occupied” and protecting it against further Russian activities with the aim of “sending a clear signal that there is no acceptance for war crimes”.
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Kaczyński declared that he sees a need for a mission of a NATO or even broader international coalition, which would be in power “to defend itself and act on the territory of Ukraine”. This mission would not be unarmed, he added: “It will strive for peace and providing humanitarian aid but at the same time it will be shielded by armed forces.”

"Poland is not calling for a mission that would involve “getting into direct conflict with Russia”, he clarified. It would be based on the idea of “stationing in parts of Ukraine that are not currently occupied” and protecting it against further Russian activities"

So what happens when/if Russia reaches the places they would be stationed at to protect?
A direct conflict?
Or they pull out and leave?

 

[Heyo]

What exactly does "peacekeeping" entail? Might this introduce complications to the situation? If NATO-allied troops are fired on, does that escalate to WWIII?

Poland to propose Ukraine peacekeeping mission at NATO summit, says PM

Going in, even for "peacekeeping" as NATO is a dumb idea. It should be a mission on an international agreement, preferably an UN mission. If that fails due to Russian veto, an international mission, backed by as many UN countries as possible.
I don't know how demented Putin is, but someone in power will have the wits not to start a conflict with the whole world when they see that Russia will be alone.

 

[Nimos]

What exactly does "peacekeeping" entail? Might this introduce complications to the situation? If NATO-allied troops are fired on, does that escalate to WWIII?

Poland to propose Ukraine peacekeeping mission at NATO summit, says PM

Poland seem very on the edge. They are willing to do anything, I like them

But doubt it is going to happen as it would be WW3 then or at least a war between Russia and NATO.

 

[We Never Know]

What exactly does "peacekeeping" entail? Might this introduce complications to the situation? If NATO-allied troops are fired on, does that escalate to WWIII?

Poland to propose Ukraine peacekeeping mission at NATO summit, says PM

In my opinion Putin will see their atctions as aggressive and go after them too

 

[Stevicus]

"Poland is not calling for a mission that would involve “getting into direct conflict with Russia”, he clarified. It would be based on the idea of “stationing in parts of Ukraine that are not currently occupied” and protecting it against further Russian activities"

So what happens when/if Russia reaches the places they would be stationed at to protect?
A direct conflict?
Or they pull out and leave?

Perhaps one possibility might be for Ukraine to sign a treaty with Poland ceding the territory around Lviv to Poland (since it used to be part of Poland anyway). That way, Polish and/or NATO troops could move into the area and protect it from invasion.

 

[Estro Felino]

Going in, even for "peacekeeping" as NATO is a dumb idea. It should be a mission on an international agreement, preferably an UN mission. If that fails due to Russian veto, an international mission, backed by as many UN countries as possible.
I don't know how demented Putin is, but someone in power will have the wits not to start a conflict with the whole world when they see that Russia will be alone.

I would like to point out that all these warlike operations are against the EU principles and the EU regulations.
There are hundreds of diplomats who could solve this issue with negotiations.

 

[Estro Felino]

Perhaps one possibility might be for Ukraine to sign a treaty with Poland ceding the territory around Lviv to Poland (since it used to be part of Poland anyway). That way, Polish and/or NATO troops could move into the area and protect it from invasion.

I can already say our soldiers will not be part of this.

 

[Heyo]

I would like to point out that all these warlike operations are against the EU principles and the EU regulations.
There are hundreds of diplomats who could solve this issue with negotiations.

That's why it has to be international and it shouldn't be warlike, a purely humanitarian mission (with the ability to protect themselves if attacked).
And as Putin will tell you, they need to be able to protect themselves as they might be attacked by the Ukrainian Asow brigade. And Putin will also tell you that he won't attack civilians so there would be no possibility of conflict when the mission keeps to humanitarian goals. /s

 

[Estro Felino]

That's why it has to be international and it shouldn't be warlike, a purely humanitarian mission (with the ability to protect themselves if attacked).
And as Putin will tell you, they need to be able to protect themselves as they might be attacked by the Ukrainian Asow brigade. And Putin will also tell you that he won't attack civilians so there would be no possibility of conflict when the mission keeps to humanitarian goals. /s

That is reassuring. Hopefully so.