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Note taking before Pilot

Thief

Rogue Theologian
He was probably not a carpenter.

There was little to no wood in Nazareth.

Not only that in Galilee, a tekton was a displaced peasant who probably rented and was known as a hand worker doing odd jobs.

Carpenter is just a poor translation.


Jesus was martyred at this passover, and this event generated the oral tradition that spread throughout the Roman empire. Sedition and tax evasion were his biblical charges, but causing a stink in the temple at passover would get you thrown on a cross without a trial of any kind. Its not even kown if Pilate or Caiaphas would have taken the time for a trouble maker.

And yet we have the story...don't we?
And it's filled with point and counterpoint...is it not?
And likely to be told over and over.....long after you're gone?

And I just love it.
 

Desert Snake

Veteran Member
s been argued that gospel accounts place the blame on the Jews, not on Rome, in line with the authors' alleged goal of making peace with the Roman Empire and vilifying the Jews.[24][25]


There is no debate about this.

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The romans don't come out looking very good in the narrative.

Anyways, if the narrative is entirely made up why portray the Romans in any sort of poor manner? Why even mention them if the goal was to make them appear more favorably
 

steeltoes

Junior member
The romans don't come out looking very good in the narrative.

Anyways, if the narrative is entirely made up why portray the Romans in any sort of poor manner? Why even mention them if the goal was to make them appear more favorably
The Romans were occupying the middle east and the Jews rebelled bringing about the destruction of Jerusalem. The story was politically wise.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The romans don't come out looking very good in the narrative.

Anyways, if the narrative is entirely made up why portray the Romans in any sort of poor manner? Why even mention them if the goal was to make them appear more favorably


They come out worse butchering hundreds of thousands of jewish men women and children when the temple fell shortly before Pilate was even written about.

Whats your point?, you seem lost. The gospel authors were factually painting the Romans as decent guys, not the brutal oppressors they factually were.
 
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outhouse

Atheistically
And yet we have the story...don't we?
And it's filled with point and counterpoint...is it not?
And likely to be told over and over.....long after you're gone?

And I just love it.

The point is, if you love this so much. You should try and remain as historically accurate as possible.
 

Thief

Rogue Theologian
The point is, if you love this so much. You should try and remain as historically accurate as possible.

As if history is the base for belief?......nay.

Faith is the base of belief.
And proving is not required.
 
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