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Nature of Elohim
- Thread starter garrydons
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Well, there really isn't 'one' Messianic Judaism. I suppose that the Hebrew Christians, from Christian backgrounds which seek to re-connect with the faith's Jewish roots... would say yes.
Ebionites and other MJ from Jewish backgrounds would say... absolutely not.
Messiah does not need to be divine. We Ebionies do not believe in either Incarnationist or Adoptionist Trinitarian theology. But that's just one stand of many.
Messiah ben Yosef
Who is Messiah ben Yosef? Allow me to link the most recent post where I explain... (I've done so many times):
http://www.religiousforums.com/forum/2796299-post180.html
Excuse me in advance if I may miss your reply, I don't get on the forum on Shabbat
Shalom
SimoneQuinn
Member
I'm not quite sure what 'label' I would be called by yet, most likely Ebionite. I do not accept the idea of trinity.
Shermana
Heretic
Most organzations and members that call themselves "Messianic Jews" are in fact Trinitarians I am not, and personally detest the doctrine (as well as its ugly stepsister, Modalism). So yes, it is the "common belief", but that doesn't make it right by any means. If anything it is one of the telling proofs that the mainstream "Messianic Judaism" movement is in fact just a ******* child of the Evangelicals as Zardoz has pointed out before.
The original "Messianic Jews", the Nazarenes and Ebionites, I believe would have outcasted anyone preaching such a doctrine. It does not appear until the late 2nd century to begin with. Even the early gentile "church fathers" like Justin Martyr and Origen clearly held that Jesus was "a god" (note: The word "god" is vastly misunderstood, as well as its use in the Anarthrous form as it is mistranslated in most Trinitarian translations of the Gospels) and not the same being as the Father in a "different manifestation". If anything, the Trinity is basically the same thing as Modalism, and most Trinitarians are actually Modalist without realizing and use Modalistic explanations for their own convoluted doctrine.
How can there be "3 manifestations" (or "persons") in "One G-d", that would still be 3 equal gods, no matter how much wordplay the Trinitarians try to pull.
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