Music Creation with AI

[Nimos]

Here is another one

This time I tried to create a song that I could imagine would be in a Disney movie. Think it turned out pretty ok, except for some minor issues with the lyrics which I didn't notice before after completing it.

Also created a movie poster for it for fun

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yes, thanks to artificial intelligence technologies, I will probably be able to create any version of the sound of a voice or music. But can this really replace a real work of musical art and a person’s creative talent? )))) That's another question))

I doubt music generated by ai will make it sound like you want it to make it sound.

It's why I like music generated composition using copyright free rifts with the license to sell your compositions.

 

[Nimos]

Just trying to mix some different genres, which I think is quite fun. Not even sure what type of music this is probably some kind of musical, symphony theatrical kind of thing

 

[Nimos]

I doubt music generated by ai will make it sound like you want it to make it sound.

Agree, there is a lot of chance involved and also sometimes you just have to accept something, even though you think it would sound better another way.

Once the quality gets good enough I think musicians with the right tools and knowledge have a huge advantage over the average person like me, who knows nothing about music or how to produce it and therefore solely rely on the AI spitting out something kind of like I wanted.

 

[Secret Chief]

Agree, there is a lot of chance involved and also sometimes you just have to accept something, even though you think it would sound better another way.

Once the quality gets good enough I think musicians with the right tools and knowledge have a huge advantage over the average person like me, who knows nothing about music or how to produce it and therefore solely rely on the AI spitting out something kind of like I wanted.

I'm just making some banging bhangra!

 

[Eddi]

I hate generative AI

 

[Nimos]

I hate generative AI

I can understand why some would hate it for what it is, because they see it as a threat or because they feel that there is too little human involvement in it compared to what they would like. But to me, it sort of feels like someone making an argument that you shouldn't use a calculator because that is too easy.

But on the other hand, I also think that a lot of modern music sounds exceptionally bad and ripped of all natural sounds anyway. I happened to see the Eurovision 2024 the other day and my God!! had to mute some of the songs. Obviously, this type of music isn't to my taste, but honestly, I didn't think any of them sounded even remotely good and still these are made by actual musicians and professional producers.

At some point, I think one has to ask oneself what is most important, music you care to listen to or whether it was created by a human or not? And this is how music is, people have very different tastes in regards to what they like listening to and not.

 

[Nimos]

Just some more AI fun

Think the image took longer to create than the song, but all in all pretty happy with it.

 

[Eddi]

This thread is called "music creation with AI"

AI does not create

It copies and mimics

Everything it does is derivative

It spews out soulless inhuman trash that is based on real things

I can't stand generative AI

 

[Secret Chief]

This thread is called "music creation with AI"

AI does not create

It copies and mimics

Everything it does is derivative

It spews out soulless inhuman trash that is based on real things

I can't stand generative AI

I'm loving the inhuman trash I'm creating! Certainly better than the **** peddled on Eurovision.
Each to their own.

 

[Eddi]

I'm loving the inhuman trash I'm creating! Certainly better than the **** peddled on Eurovision.
Each to their own.

I haven't even seen what you have made I don't want to infect my brain

At least the music on Eurovision is the work of sentient beings

It is fun because it's so crappy, crappiness is a funny part of the human condition

AI stuff is fake

 

[Secret Chief]

I haven't even seen what you have made I don't want to infect my brain

At least the music on Eurovision is the work of sentient beings

It is fun because it's so crappy, crappiness is a funny part of the human condition

AI stuff is fake

Then I prefer fake over crap.

One cannot tell if a human has utilised AI or not.

 

[Eddi]

Then I prefer fake over crap.

One cannot tell if a human has utilised AI or not.

When I consume art a big part of it for me is the human feeling

AI art either does not do this or outright fakes it

I want art, not derivative AI ****e

It's empty, I don't like it one bit

 

[Secret Chief]

That Chest I & II are a bit to hardcore for me, or at least it would require a singer. Im not too good with instrumental music unless it is something like this (very stoney ):

I do like some heavy rock though.

I tried Udio, but for some reason, it feels more random than Suno does. It doesn't seem to follow the prompt as well or maybe I just used it wrong.

Something a little gentler perhaps? ...

Udio | Reflections by Secret Chief | AI Music Generator - Official Website


Udio | Pulsar by Secret Chief | AI Music Generator - Official Website

 

[Secret Chief]

It's empty, I don't like it one bit

So you can tell if AI was utilised or not then?

 

[Eddi]

So you can tell if AI was utilised or not then?

That's the thing about it that bothers me

It can pass stuff off as human which I think is nothing short of fraudulent

Maybe the future involves a mergure of human and computer

I hope that never happens

 

[Secret Chief]

That's the thing about it that bothers me

It can pass stuff off as human which I think is nothing short of fraudulent

Maybe the future involves a mergure of human and computer

I hope that never happens

You do realise you're conversing with a chatbot?

 

[Eddi]

You do realise you're conversing with a chatbot?

So what if I am?

It doesn't alter the fact that a thing produced using generative AI can never be said to have any artistic merit or to be in any way art

 

[Nimos]

This thread is called "music creation with AI"

AI does not create

It copies and mimics

Everything it does is derivative

It spews out soulless inhuman trash that is based on real things

I can't stand generative AI

AI doesn't create in the same way as humans does, but how many humans actually create something new? It's not like each and every musician out there create their own unique genre or type of music, more than the AI does. So I'm not really sure exactly what the difference is?

What do you think when you hear a modern music number? let's say a random hit at a given time, how much of that music isn't created using computers and samples etc. In many cases, the singer's voice is so autotuned that you might as well use an AI.

I think there is a valid argument to be had against AI, but I think it has to be better than what you are presenting, given how a lot of music is produced today.

How many of the big hits are actually written by the artists themselves?

When it comes down to it, I don't think the process is all that different. The musicians will also constantly change the stuff they make until they are happy with it. In my case, the AI generate something based on what I tell it, and then I tell it whether I like it or not. The AI simply emulate the musicians and singers and you the producer or what to say.

If you take Andy Warhol (I think he is unique in this):
In his 1960s studio – known as the Factory – he employed studio assistants to make his work for him. Warhol realised that he could increase the commercial productivity of his art more quickly by getting others involved in making it.

Yet, for some reason, this is perfectly acceptable.

 

[Secret Chief]

So what if I am?

It doesn't alter the fact that a thing produced using generative AI can never be said to have any artistic merit or to be in any way art

We shall remain in disagreement then.