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Mujahid and AV

Discussion in 'Christianity in General DIR' started by Aqualung, Sep 12, 2005.

  1. Aqualung

    Aqualung Tasty

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    This is a discussion that I'm moving here so my thread doesn't go off topic. I posted it in discussions because that's where I thought it git best. If it changes to a debate, a mod can move it. I don't really care where it goes.
     
  2. Aqualung

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    This is what Majuhid said first

     
  3. michel

    michel Administrator Emeritus
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    And you want us to debate/discuss this ? - I'll see you in two months time, with some answers..............:bonk:
     
  4. Aqualung

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    And then this is how the discussion progressed:

     
  5. Aqualung

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    And here's the second part of AV's answer"

     
  6. Aqualung

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    Okay, I'm not going to transfer the rest. It's a long one. Please keep the discussion of this stuff in this thread. Thanks!
     
  7. Aqualung

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    despite the name, this forum is open to all
     
  8. Mujahid Mohammed

    Mujahid Mohammed Well-Known Member

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    Ok I finally found it what thanks again for your help Aqualung and anyone who has read this thread and can help me answer these questions I would really appreciate it. I am just very unsure and it is due mostly to the Christians I talk to in my area. Unfortunately most of them know very little about their bible or what it says and whenever I ask question I always get. I don't know or I'll get back to you and they never do so anyones help would be appreciated.
     
  9. Aqualung

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    Yeah, I was wondering if you ever would. :D I'll take you on, but can you keep it to one question per post? It's a lot easier to answer more in depth if you do that.

    So if you just start me off by posting one question, I'll answer that, and we can go from there.
     
  10. Bennettresearch

    Bennettresearch Politically Incorrect

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    Hi Mujahid,

    You are asking some very intrigueing questions and these same questions are being asked by some Christians who are trying to extract the true Jesus from within the books that were written about Him. These are the works of men regardless of being inspired by God. Jesus did not write a Gospel so that leaves the entire subject in the hands of those that came after Him. Since you are a Muslim, I could ask some questions of you.

    1. Who was Mohammed to write about Jesus?

    2. Why is it taught that Muslims believe that Jesus will validate their religion when HE Comes back?

    3. Can you accept that Jesus was THE prophet of the ages and that He is even greater than Mohammed?

    I would be interested in your answer to these questions. It is most likely that Jesus will teach His own religion and possibly not validate any religion that has misappropriated HIS name.
     
  11. Mujahid Mohammed

    Mujahid Mohammed Well-Known Member

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    Mohammed was a man appointed by God to give his message to the world. To fulfill the prophecy in John 16. How when HE the spirit of truth comes he will guide you into all truth. HE will tell you of many things to come, HE will not speak of his own but whatever HE hears he shall speak, He will also testify of Jesus. Mohammed did all these things Mohammed is only metioned two or three times in the bible Jesus is mentioned more than 25 times. He also talked of his blessed and chaste mother Mary who is according to Allah the greatest woman in creation. Why would an arab tell his people the mother of their enemy is the greatest. Mohammed was a man of upstanding moral character and from the noblest family among his people. He is a descendent from the bloodline of Abraham(father of all the prophets) through the lineage of Ishmael who like his father was a prophet of God. Now Mohammed did not know who Jesus was Why? He could not read or write so he had no knowledge of any scriptures. His people worshipped many Gods like the one's all the other prophets came to destroy. He was given the message of God through the Angel Gabriel who we know to be the one to give all the prophets the commands of God. His character and humble backgrounds as a shepard which is what all prophets did as a line of work preceding prophethood.

    Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed all taught the sane religion of Abraham which foundation was the worship of the one true God of all that exists. And that this God is the only one to be worshipped. As it states in the bible. Jesus said the lord your God is one God, and he never said to worship him or that he was the begotten or cired son of God. All he said was to keep the commandments and listen to his words only. Nowadays depending on which Christian group some worship Jesus as God some just the son of God, all contradicting each other in the scriptures and if the scriptures have contradictions or lies in them we say it cannot be from God so Mohammed came to bring us back to the true Abrahamic beliefs but Mohammed said even the muslims will differ as time goes on with what Mohammed said and did not the Qur'an. So when Jesus comes back he will put the people back on the Abrahamic belief of one God and the teachings of the Comforter who is just like him because he said I will send another comforter. Meaning like him a man, a man who loved and feared God and was just and righteous and removed idol worshipping.

    We accept that Jesus was the prophet of his age to his people as he stated I have not been sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. and Mohammed and Jesus are the same to us it is just that Mohammed came after Jesus and if you live in the lifetime after that individual has come he is your Prophet. Similary but not really the same because these guys are no where near the moral character of Jesus and Moses. When my daughter was born our President was Clinton. When my sons were born the President is Bush. Now Clinton is and was a president but he was not my sons president. He is still respected and on the same level people still address him as Mr. President. I hope the analogy makes sense.

    Jesus will teach the religion of the one true God which is submission doing as your God commands you. The religion that all the prophets taught. Because Jesus did all God commanded with the powers God gave him so by definition he is a muslim. The issue is are the Christians following Jesus or are they following Paul. Because Paul who was a Roman a culture which was intrinched in Sun worship and idol worship he changed the religion of Jesus to try and convert the Gentiles. They did not want to give up stuff so he had to change a few things. Soon I am going to start a thread about these and other issues but I am real busy with work I may do it on Monday when I am off and I would love for you to join in the discussion for I hate to debate because Allah says to not to dispute with the Christians (people of the book)over these matters accept in a way that is best. I hope this helps please let me know if any more questions.
     
  12. Scott1

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    I like this... :D
    Allah be praised!

    Peace be with you,
    Scott
     
  13. Omer

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    Hi there Bennett
    actually , saying to validate any religion....doesnt sound correct.actually Jesus Christ's second coming mean that bridges will be built between islamic and christian beliefs and unity will be established between believers of different faith systems...thats the real meaning behind the islamic belief of Jesus' second coming, i think.

    Regards,
     
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