Military sizes during World War 2?

[rational experiences]

In the history phenomenon coming to earth....Russia owned evidence.

Germany was seeking the holy grail answer of gods power. Nuclear was invented yet supposed evidence says other research was also involved.

Italy supported the cause.

Japan for some reason joined in.

You would have to ask why.

What was happening to the human psyche mind brain and it's beliefs?

Earths irradiation from 1000 years ago the shroud and Baha'i evidence real.

Humans brain mind becomes possessed by the fallout upon our life mind.

Suddenly human beliefs of having learnt life's lessons from the dark ages forgotten. Evolution of the psyche vanishes with its owned good behaviours and mannerisms.

Human behaviour a choice proves it's own proof.

We always knew the effect and named it satanic.

The want of humans by destructive power energy bodies to overtake and over rule life and choice as one powerful body. Yet it is Multi cultural as a belief.

Already known.
Human witnessed.
Human taught against cosmic causes to consciousness living a holy life in Christ gases only.

Which are not cosmic. They belong to earths stone form.

And cosmic attack takes a long time to evolve it's gas status known.

We own our own teaching conditions why the human psyche suddenly changes. And it is about time we honour what we taught.

The belief of Hitler was proven false.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I was just doing some looking around, as I wanted to refresh my knowledge of the ANZUS Pact (ANZUS - Wikipedia), but then came across information about a new agreement called "AUKUS" (Australia, UK, and US). New Zealand was left out due to their opposition to nukes.

Pact with U.S., Britain, will see Australia scrap French sub deal-media | Reuters

AUKUS - Wikipedia

Then there's also this, which is a mouthful: AUSCANNZUKUS - Wikipedia

There's also the 5 eyes intelligence arrangement. Five Eyes - Wikipedia

Australia is closer to New Zealand than any other country, in terms of culture and shared heritage. We hate them with every fibre of our being. Until, of course, someone who is neither from Australia or New Zealand shows up...

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

In the history phenomenon coming to earth....Russia owned evidence.

Germany was seeking the holy grail answer of gods power. Nuclear was invented yet supposed evidence says other research was also involved.

Italy supported the cause.

Japan for some reason joined in.

You would have to ask why.

What was happening to the human psyche mind brain and it's beliefs?

Earths irradiation from 1000 years ago the shroud and Baha'i evidence real.

Humans brain mind becomes possessed by the fallout upon our life mind.

Suddenly human beliefs of having learnt life's lessons from the dark ages forgotten. Evolution of the psyche vanishes with its owned good behaviours and mannerisms.

Human behaviour a choice proves it's own proof.

We always knew the effect and named it satanic.

The want of humans by destructive power energy bodies to overtake and over rule life and choice as one powerful body. Yet it is Multi cultural as a belief.

Already known.
Human witnessed.
Human taught against cosmic causes to consciousness living a holy life in Christ gases only.

Which are not cosmic. They belong to earths stone form.

And cosmic attack takes a long time to evolve it's gas status known.

We own our own teaching conditions why the human psyche suddenly changes. And it is about time we honour what we taught.

The belief of Hitler was proven false.

...yeah. Think about it.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

And never mention the Bledisloe Cup.

That's a funny noise, did you cough?

 

[John53]

That's a funny noise, did you cough?

I'll go for a covid test

 

[rational experiences]

...yeah. Think about it.

I did.

I thought must be why Japan's atmosphere overheated and had a huge storm and had to shut off the nuclear plant.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

I did.

I thought must be why Japan's atmosphere overheated and had a huge storm and had to shut off the nuclear plant.

...uh-huh.

 

[rational experiences]

...uh-huh.

Gases burnt out in atmospheric mass gone by asteroid conditions. Science after all is based on consciousness mainly water oxygen. Is not based on natural mass in science thesis.

The atmospheric mass changes in every world's country by ground conditions.

The human psyche consciousness proved its advice changes by what it claims are messengers from space change.

What did first human science theorise about? From out of space sun mass conversion. Why science changed the human mind to become destructive.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Gases burnt out in atmospheric mass gone by asteroid conditions. Science after all is based on consciousness mainly water oxygen. Is not based on natural mass in science thesis.

The atmospheric mass changes in every world's country by ground conditions.

The human psyche consciousness proved its advice changes by what it claims are messengers from space change.

What did first human science theorise about? From out of space sun mass conversion. Why science changed the human mind to become destructive.

...sure thing.

 

[Oberon12]

I don't understand how France was defeated so quickly; they were very harsh toward Germany after World War 1 and were prepared for German expansion but still lost.

I don't agree Britain would have lost against the Germans: both HM Navy and the RAF would have beat back any sort of invasion.

Poor coordination and tactics on the art of the French against German mobile tactics, mainly. their equipment wasn't all that bad, and the German armor was pretty low quality compared to later developments at the time; essentially they were still fighting WW I, while Germany continued to develop their 'Blitzkrieg' doctrines after learning from their failures in WW I. They developed a solid combined arms methodology using fast moving armor, air power, and artillery. What is amazing is how little armor they actually had deployed and how effectively they used it; they still moved mostly by rail and donkey carts, not trucks, like the Americans.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Poor coordination and tactics on the art of the French against German mobile tactics, mainly. their equipment wasn't all that bad, and the German armor was pretty low quality compared to later developments at the time; essentially they were still fighting WW I, while Germany continued to develop their 'Blitzkrieg' doctrines after learning from their failures in WW I. They developed a solid combined arms methodology using fast moving armor, air power, and artillery. What is amazing is how little armor they actually had deployed and how effectively they used it; they still moved mostly by rail and donkey carts, not trucks, like the Americans.

The major German failing, and most surprising one, was in supply and logistics. A very large proportion of their supply chain was provided by Horses. It was very poorly mechanised right through the WW2.

 

[Wandering Monk]

After all the talk about superiority or inferiority of equipment and men, it all comes down to the economics of warfare: how many people can you kill per dollar of military expenditure. Hitler was hypnotized by wonder weapons that were very expensive but didn't kill that many people. The V2 rocket is probably the most well know wonder weapon.

 

[Stevicus]

After all the talk about superiority or inferiority of equipment and men, it all comes down to the economics of warfare: how many people can you kill per dollar of military expenditure. Hitler was hypnotized by wonder weapons that were very expensive but didn't kill that many people. The V2 rocket is probably the most well know wonder weapon.

On the subject of wonder weapons, the atomic bomb might also be considered such a weapon. The reason why the U.S. developed atomic weapons and made it such a high priority was due to the belief that, if they didn't, Germany would produce an atomic bomb first.

I found a link to a paper where it is detailed that Germany could never have produced a bomb: The Atomic Bomb That Never Was: (vanderbilt.edu)

In August of 1943, J. Robert Oppenheimer, the scientific director of the Manhattan Project, wrote, “It is possible that the German will have, by the end of this year, enough material accumulated to make a large number of gadgets [atomic bombs] which they will release at the same time on England, Russia, and this country” (Ford 212). In fact, Oppenheimer was only involved in the Manhattan Project because of the idea that Germany would develop a bomb. Thomas Powers describes the situation as, “A single lurid fear brought the American decision to undertake the vast effort and expense required to build the atomic bomb-the fear that Hitler’s Germany would do it first” (Powers VII).

The paper indicates that Germany spent only a miniscule amount ($1m) on atomic research, compared to the U.S., which spent $2 billion.

Also, a lot of the German scientists really didn't want Germany to win the war. So, they didn't really put their best effort into it. Also, Hitler's racial policies led to a brain drain in Germany, with Einstein fleeing to America, and Niels Bohr fleeing from German-occupied Denmark. Fermi fled Italy for similar reasons. However, it was argued that this point is irrelevant, since there didn't seem to be any way for Germany to produce a bomb even if they had put in their best effort.

There was also a difference in what was used to moderate the speed of the nuclear reaction. Americans used graphite, whereas the Germans used heavy water. As the Allies knew the Germans were working on a bomb, the destruction of heavy water plants and any other facilities for atomic testing and research were made a top priority.

The number of people working on the project was not the only reason the bomb project in Germany failed compared to the American effort. Germany only spent an estimated one million dollars in their efforts. In contrast, the Americans spent over two billion dollars. In a memorandum written and signed by the German scientists as Farm Hall, they wrote “On the whole the funds made available by the German authorities for uranium were extremely small compared to those employed by the Allies” (Frank 106). Money was not the only aspect in which the German effort was lacking. Even in laboratory and engineering space, the Germans facilities were inadequate. The research was carried out in common university labs. No specialized lab or plant was built. During the course of the war, the research was moved to small towns in the Black Forest to avoid Allied bombing raids. Whereas the Americans utilized dedicated university sites, such as the celebrated lab underneath the football stadium at the University of Chicago where the first self-sustained nuclear reaction occurred, and then enormous processing plants and a vast testing complex at Los Alamos, in total some thirty seven different sites, German scientists had to make do with small houses and even caves towards the end of the war. No scientist, whether a Nobel laureate or not, could make the necessary breakthroughs under these conditions. As Peter Rose points out in his book, “The bomb project was bound to fail because it need massive industrial resources that were beyond Germany’s capability” (Rose 46).

One last material aspect hindered the Germans. Unlike the American effort, in which scientists had discovered the use of graphite to moderate the speed of the reaction, the Germans still used heavy-water for this task. Ironically in 1940, basing his conclusions on an erroneous experiment by Walther Bothe, Heisenberg wrote that “pure graphite was less suitable as the moderator in a uranium pile then had at first seemed” (Irving 59). This report meant that Germany would continue to rely on heavy-water, which they obtained from a plant located in Norway. In February of 1943, a team of saboteurs destroyed the facility, and after the Germans rebuilt the plant, an Allied bombing raid forced the Germans to move the equipment to a safer location. During that move, Norwegian resistance fighters sank the ferry transporting the equipment. The loss of heavy-water production convinced many of the German scientists that it would be impossible for them to achieve any advances in nuclear research. They only had two and one half tons of heavy-water to use for further experiments. They had no hope of obtaining it from any other source. One of the German scientists working on the atomic bomb project, Kurt Diebner, said later, “It was the elimination of German heavy-water production in Norway that was the main factor in our failure to achieve a self-sustaining atomic reaction before the war ended” (Kurzman 378).

The article also mentions that personality conflicts and quarrels among the German scientists also hindered the project, whereas the American-based scientists were more cooperative with each other.

Beyond the tangible reasons that the German effort never succeeded, the personalities of the German scientists inhibited their efforts. A simple example of this is the fact that in the first years of the war, when everyone in Germany believed that the war would be over by 1942, no scientist seriously considered the idea of developing an atomic weapon. Such a weapon would take years to develop and the war would be over before then. However, a much more important example is the conflicting personalities of the scientists themselves. Heisenberg later described the situation as each scientist being more concerned with increasing their own importance and funding then with successfully creating a self-sustained atomic reaction. What this meant is that German scientists often did not work together. At Farm Hall, Horst Korsching remarked, “[The atomic bomb] shows at any rate that the Americans are capable of real cooperation on a tremendous scale. That would have been impossible in Germany. Each one said that the other was unimportant” (Frank 75-76). Just one instance of this conflict occurred between Gerlach and Abraham Esau when both wanted to control the use of heavy water. The end of this conflict saw Gerlach in control of all atomic research and Esau refusing to work with him. This kind of lack of cooperation further damaged the German effort.

Finally, even if Germany had the necessary resources for the project and was able to coordinate the effort, the likely Allied response would have prevented the completion of the project. Even Weizsacker, who seemed to believe that they could have been successful, commented, “If we had put the same energy into it as the Americans and had wanted it as they did, it is quite certain that we would not have succeeded as they would have smashed up the factories” (Frank 78). In destroying the heavy-water plant in Norway, the Allies first sent a sabotage team in 1942, every member of which was executed by the Germans. This did not deter the Allies. The second team was successful. Furthermore, the Allies were willing to destroy a ferry, with full knowledge of the civilian casualties that would ensue, in order to destroy the shipment of equipment and heavy water. If the Germans had progressed beyond the testing stage and developed a nuclear reactor, then undoubtedly the Allies would have launched determined attacks on the plant. In an analogous situation, the Allies viewed ball bearing plants in Nuremberg as a vital target and launched an air strike against these targets. 108 American bombers, over a third of the attacking force, were destroyed. Considering the fact that the German atomic bomb project was given higher priority as a target, the Allies would immediately have attempted to destroy any plant or factory involved in that research.

Simply put, Germany was incapable of developing an atomic bomb during World War II. They did not have the people. They did not have the cooperation among the people they did have. They did not have the money. They did not have the laboratory or factory space. Lastly, late in the war, they did not have the power to prevent the Allies from destroying what they did have. Whether Heisenberg or Weizsacker or whomever secretly sabotaged the atomic bomb is immaterial. The industrial and scientific capability of Germany was insufficient for the scope of this project. Thus America dropped the atomic bomb on August 6th, not Germany.

 

[Estro Felino]

May I say something?
Italy was not at all prepared for the war. All the public money was being spent on building infrastructures and not certainly on the military.
Nevertheless Germany demanded we entered the war.
And btw...we Italians did realize in 1942-1943 that the war was lost. In fact King Victor Emmanuel III opened the doors to the Americans who managed to occupy all of Southern Italy.

 

[ronki23]

The reason I'd like to see the size of each military is that during the Battle of Britain we (Britain) lost a lot of aircraft but took out a lot more German planes in the process. How many aircraft did we have left over to defend ourselves ? And what about our navy? Britain is surrounded by water so surely we had enough left over to defend against a German invasion?

As for the Soviet Union I heard they lost a lot of troops and lost a lot of ground to Germany until the Germans got caught in the winter in Stalingrad

 

[John53]

The reason I'd like to see the size of each military is that during the Battle of Britain we (Britain) lost a lot of aircraft but took out a lot more German planes in the process. How many aircraft did we have left over to defend ourselves ? And what about our navy? Britain is surrounded by water so surely we had enough left over to defend against a German invasion?

As for the Soviet Union I heard they lost a lot of troops and lost a lot of ground to Germany until the Germans got caught in the winter in Stalingrad

Germany made a huge mistake with the Battle of Britain, if they had of kept going after the fighter bases instead of changing to bombing the cities it may have been a different story. It's a good thing Goring was an incompetent leader.

There were many problems in the Russian Military, possibly the biggest being that Stalin was more worried about them rising up in revolt than he was about the Germans. And the Russians were often more scared of Stalin than they were of the Germans. Chuikov told his family it was safer for him to be in Stalingrad than it was to be in Moscow.