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Mark Warner vs. the HildaBeast

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
As a Virginia Resident, I've had the privilege of having democrat Mark Warner as governor for the last four years. Now, I hate the Democratic Party, but Mark Warner could change all that. The press has already begun the discussion. Can Mark Warner really compete with the HildaBeast?

From msnbc

It’s not just the left-right thing that could slow Hillary’s march to the nomination. It’s the transparency of what she’s doing that has even her biggest fans worried. It doesn’t look authentic. If primary voters conclude they need a Red State friendly candidate, Virginia Gov. Mark Warner is the real thing. Why settle for Red State-lite Hillary? Warner is already where he needs to be on the right, and he’s inching to the left, an easier task all around. Warner’s commutation of the death sentence of a convicted killer earlier this month won plaudits from everybody. It was the right move substantively and politically—substantively because a court clerk had destroyed DNA evidence that in theory could have established innocence, politically because it allows Warner to present himself in a more nuanced way to liberal primary voters.

If there’s a formula for electing a Democrat president, Warner is the latest iteration. Like Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton, he’s a son of the South, although by way of Indiana, Illinois and Connecticut. Warner was not born in Virginia, but his cultural adaptation has been flawless. While national Democrats championed gun control, Warner actually loosened gun laws in Virginia. Fresh from helping elect a Democrat as his successor, Warner was a guest speaker at the Gridiron winter dinner in Washington last weekend, along with Republican Sen. Lindsay Graham. The annual event is an occasion for journalists to size up political talent and for politicians to show they have a sense of humor. Graham, a natural raconteur, got everybody laughing when he remarked that if he lasts as long as his predecessor, the late Sen. Strom Thurmond, his future wife will be born next year. Warner’s introducer joked that the only thing you can’t do with a gun in Virginia is fire it in a library without a silencer.



Under Mark Warner and a Republican Congress, Virgina has:

# Turned a $6 billion deficit into a $544 Million surplus
# Eliminated or merged more than 70 duplicative or unnecessary boards and commissions and eight state agencies
# Salvaged Virginia’s threatened AAA bond rating
# Double-digit unemployment has plummeted in 12 of 13 of the most distressed counties
# 2nd lowest jobless rate in the nation
# 97% of all eligible children enrolled in heath care
# Single largest investment in K-12 education in state history
# Second largest increase in college and university funding in the nation
# Highest math SAT score increase in the nation
# The Council of Chief State School Officers Most Prestigious 2005
Distinguished Service Award
# 700 miles of broadband connecting nearly 700,000 citizens and more than 19,000 businesses

Now, it will be important to remember that in late 2006 when the 2008 campaign basically begins, that Mark Warner will have to drive to the left (because he is actually at the center), while the HildaBeast is driving to the center (because she is actually to the left).

Regardless of what happens, Mark Warner is a man of leadership and character, he has proven capable of working with Republicans, businesses and schools. He could save the Democratic Party the way Bill Clinton did in the 90s... though, I think we all know who is running the democrats now... the fringe left. They won't like a moderate, pro-business democrat leading their party.

Of course, if Va Republican Senator, and ex-Governor, George Allen runs, I won't know what to do. I doubt Warner could beat Allen in Va. George Allen appears to have the support of Republican pundits like Rush Limbaugh & Sean Hannity. He's extremely well spoken and he is a real believer in conservative political philosophy.
 

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
Maize said:
And under Mark Warner Virginia became the worst state in the nation for gay rights.

Well, like I said before, that's not going to be a big issue in 2008. Not that it isn't an important issue or anything. But it's a third rail. Hillary won't come out for gay rights of she is nominated either.



* and yes HildaBeast = Hillary Clinton
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Darkdale said:
Well, like I said before, that's not going to be a big issue in 2008. Not that it isn't an important issue or anything. But it's a third rail. Hillary won't come out for gay rights of she is nominated either.
And most BLGT people will vote for whoever the Democrat is because while they won't support us, we hold out more hope that they will not make things worse for us like the Republicans will try to. I really hate it that I have to vote for someone who just won't support me over than someone who is outright against me and my rights.
 

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
Maize said:
And most BLGT people will vote for whoever the Democrat is because while they won't support us, we hold out more hope that they will not make things worse for us like the Republicans will try to. I really hate it that I have to vote for someone who just won't support me over than someone who is outright against me and my rights.

Well, that is one real problem with the Republican party. I think they'd do much better of they were more culturally progressive. Keep the capitalism, the philosophy of lower taxes and limited governments, and dump the social stone-age conservatism and they'd be fine.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Darkdale said:
Well, that is one real problem with the Republican party. I think they'd do much better of they were more culturally progressive. Keep the capitalism, the philosophy of lower taxes and limited governments, and dump the social stone-age conservatism and they'd be fine.
Well, I'm more liberal than you, lol. I agree with the Democrats on most things, I just wish they would be more open in their support of gay rights.
 

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
Maize said:
Well, I'm more liberal than you, lol. I agree with the Democrats on most things, I just wish they would be more open in their support of gay rights.

Me too... I just think it's a shame that most people that support gay rights, of which I am one, are so far out on the socialist fringe. It makes them dangerous in my view, so I could never vote for them. However, Libertarians are in full support of gay rights...
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
Darkdale said:
Well, that is one real problem with the Republican party. I think they'd do much better of they were more culturally progressive. Keep the capitalism, the philosophy of lower taxes and limited governments, and dump the social stone-age conservatism and they'd be fine.
The Republican party probably wouldn't win near so many elections without the vote of the stone age social conservatives.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Darkdale said:
Me too... I just think it's a shame that most people that support gay rights, of which I am one, are so far out on the socialist fringe. It makes them dangerous in my view, so I could never vote for them. However, Libertarians are in full support of gay rights...
Yes, but the Libertarians are never going to be in power.
 

Darkdale

World Leader Pretend
Maize said:
Yes, but the Libertarians are never going to be in power.

Don't be so sure. With the direction the democrats are heading, the Libertarians would be an excellent replacement and they are even better on civil rights and equalty. :)
 
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