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Let's all remember what Thanksgiving is all about.
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Green Gaia
Veteran Member
I am thankful for a religion that believes in and practices religious tolerance and freedom of conscience to search for truth and meaning. I am thankful for a religious community that believes each and every person is unique and should be respected and treated equally. I am thankful for a church where people believe that we must work for a world in which there is peace, fairness and freedom and that we should respect and care for all parts of our planet Earth.
I have much to be thankful for this Thanksgiving as I carry my Guest at Your Table box with me to family dinners over the holiday season, and I hope I can give someone else something to be thankful for.
I have much to be thankful for this Thanksgiving as I carry my Guest at Your Table box with me to family dinners over the holiday season, and I hope I can give someone else something to be thankful for.
Dark_Waltz
Active Member
Isn't thanksgiving about the english people going over to America killing off all their natives and generally raping their country into the mess it is today?
I think for most people it is a family holiday that has little or nothing to do with killing off the natives, raping the country, and making it into a mess. Indeed, it has more to do with getting stuffed on turkey and watching (American) football, than it has to do with those things. That's why I'm generally opposed to it: It just doesn't have enough rape and pillage in it for my tastes.Dark_Waltz said:
Dark_Waltz
Active Member
Well I was just thinking about the real meaning of it 
I don't think the turkeys are very thankful at this time of year so much unncessary death
Have a heart-Eat a nut roast
I don't think the turkeys are very thankful at this time of year so much unncessary death
Have a heart-Eat a nut roast
Green Gaia
Veteran Member
Dark_Waltz said:
Thanksgiving today is a time of remembering all that we have to be thankful for and to spend time with family. If someone wants to be thankful for "the english people going over to America killing off all their natives and generally raping their country into the mess it is today" then that is their problem, but I do not hold the same views as they do nor do I relish in the horrors of the past.
History of Thanksgiving in North America
I think you might be getting Thanksgiving confused with the Fourth of July. The Fourth of July is when we Americans celibrate killing off the natives, raping the environment, and making the country into the mess it is today. Thanksgiving, on the other hand, is a time for celibrating family, friends, and anything else that you feel thankful for, such as the presence of free porn on the internet and it's easy availability to children, who would otherwise not be able to afford it. That is, it's a time when you forget the downside of living in America, or of just living, and celibrate the positive things in your life. Thanksgiving is not about politics or partriotism, but about what's in your life that you are thankful for.Dark_Waltz said:Well I was just thinking about the real meaning of it
Proclamation Establishing Thanksgiving Day
October 3, 1863
The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In the midst of a civil war of unequalled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle, or the ship; the axe had enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years, with large increase of freedom.
No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and voice by the whole American people. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to his tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquillity and Union.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.
Done at the city of Washington, this third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the independence of the United States the eighty-eighth.
A. Lincoln
[see Classical Library: Loncoln]
October 3, 1863
The year that is drawing towards its close, has been filled with the blessings of fruitful fields and healthful skies. To these bounties, which are so constantly enjoyed that we are prone to forget the source from which they come, others have been added, which are of so extraordinary a nature, that they cannot fail to penetrate and soften even the heart which is habitually insensible to the ever watchful providence of Almighty God. In the midst of a civil war of unequalled magnitude and severity, which has sometimes seemed to foreign States to invite and to provoke their aggression, peace has been preserved with all nations, order has been maintained, the laws have been respected and obeyed, and harmony has prevailed everywhere except in the theatre of military conflict; while that theatre has been greatly contracted by the advancing armies and navies of the Union. Needful diversions of wealth and of strength from the fields of peaceful industry to the national defence, have not arrested the plough, the shuttle, or the ship; the axe had enlarged the borders of our settlements, and the mines, as well of iron and coal as of the precious metals, have yielded even more abundantly than heretofore. Population has steadily increased, notwithstanding the waste that has been made in the camp, the siege and the battle-field; and the country, rejoicing in the consciousness of augmented strength and vigor, is permitted to expect continuance of years, with large increase of freedom.
No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy.
It has seemed to me fit and proper that they should be solemnly, reverently and gratefully acknowledged as with one heart and voice by the whole American people. I do therefore invite my fellow citizens in every part of the United States, and also those who are at sea and those who are sojourning in foreign lands, to set apart and observe the last Thursday of November next, as a day of Thanksgiving and Praise to our beneficent Father who dwelleth in the Heavens. And I recommend to them that while offering up the ascriptions justly due to Him for such singular deliverances and blessings, they do also, with humble penitence for our national perverseness and disobedience, commend to his tender care all those who have become widows, orphans, mourners or sufferers in the lamentable civil strife in which we are unavoidably engaged, and fervently implore the interposition of the Almighty Hand to heal the wounds of the nation and to restore it as soon as may be consistent with the Divine purposes to the full enjoyment of peace, harmony, tranquillity and Union.
In testimony whereof, I have hereunto set my hand, and caused the seal of the United States to be affixed.
Done at the city of Washington, this third day of October, in the year of our Lord one thousand eight hundred and sixty-three, and of the independence of the United States the eighty-eighth.
A. Lincoln
[see Classical Library: Loncoln]
BUDDY
User of Aspercreme
I am thankful to God for the Church, the body of Christ on earth, which was established to follow God's commands as laid forth in His word, the Holy Bible. I am thankful that through the following of that word, we can know that God is tolerant of us, even though we are sinful creatures. I am also thankful for this great country, friends, family, and all of you on this website, who, while I do not always agree with you, you do help me to think and work out my salvation on a day to day basis.
And thanks to Deut, for pointing out that this national holiday was originally established as a day to give thanks to the God of the Bible. For whatever its worth to those who do not believe in the God of the Bible, that is what its original intent was.
And thanks to Deut, for pointing out that this national holiday was originally established as a day to give thanks to the God of the Bible. For whatever its worth to those who do not believe in the God of the Bible, that is what its original intent was.
Dark_Waltz
Active Member
Well in that case
I am thankful for gloves and vegeterian alternatives
I am thankful for gloves and vegeterian alternatives
Darkdale
World Leader Pretend
I think thanksgiving is a ridiculous holiday (established by a ridiculous president)... but, I do enjoy the time with family and friends and it's kind of a cultural kick-off for Yule, so that's good.
"No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy."
I really hate Lincoln. Just an all around terrible president. I'm thankful that Lincoln is dead and gone, I just hope that eventually people stop worshipping a President that slaughtered his own people, conscripted immigrants, drafted the Unions poor and all in the spirit of an imperial federal government.
"No human counsel hath devised nor hath any mortal hand worked out these great things. They are the gracious gifts of the Most High God, who, while dealing with us in anger for our sins, hath nevertheless remembered mercy."
I really hate Lincoln. Just an all around terrible president. I'm thankful that Lincoln is dead and gone, I just hope that eventually people stop worshipping a President that slaughtered his own people, conscripted immigrants, drafted the Unions poor and all in the spirit of an imperial federal government.