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Jesus Christ: the greatest story ever told?

an anarchist

Your local loco.
Is the story of Jesus Christ the greatest story ever told? I think so.

The story of God sending His only son to die for our immorality, in order to redeem our souls, is a touching one, isn't it?

It assumes that we need redemption. Don't we all? Jesus Christ offers us this in the most selfless way.

More than two billion people believe in Christ as the son of God who died for us. It's a story too good not to be true. I find myself desiring to believe in the story too.

It is a story that has endured for millieneum and changed the lives of billions of people.

If it is truly just a story, what a great and powerful story it is!
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Is the story of Jesus Christ the greatest story ever told? I think so.

The story of God sending His only son to die for our immorality, in order to redeem our souls, is a touching one, isn't it?

It assumes that we need redemption. Don't we all? Jesus Christ offers us this in the most selfless way.

More than two billion people believe in Christ as the son of God who died for us. It's a story too good not to be true. I find myself desiring to believe in the story too.

It is a story that has endured for millieneum and changed the lives of billions of people.

If it is truly just a story, what a great and powerful story it is!
No. I don't think so.

There are far more greater and exciting stories to be found among the Roman and Greek Pantheon than Jesus.
 

an anarchist

Your local loco.
No. I don't think so.

There are far more greater and exciting stories to be found among the Roman and Greek Pantheon than Jesus.
Exciting, sure. Greater? I disagree. Well I don't know enough about Greek Myth to fully disagree. The Iliad is a banger, I'll give you that. But, is there Greek myths that offers a way to free ourself from suffering and redeem our souls?
 

Psalm23

Well-Known Member
Is the story of Jesus Christ the greatest story ever told? I think so.

The story of God sending His only son to die for our immorality, in order to redeem our souls, is a touching one, isn't it?

It assumes that we need redemption. Don't we all? Jesus Christ offers us this in the most selfless way.

More than two billion people believe in Christ as the son of God who died for us. It's a story too good not to be true. I find myself desiring to believe in the story too.

It is a story that has endured for millieneum and changed the lives of billions of people.

If it is truly just a story, what a great and powerful story it is!

I find this touching as well. I find it wonderful that Jesus would love me and redeem me through his sacrifice on the cross. I am touched how Jesus welcomed people who many in society did not welcome or looked down on and his kindness to people in need.

Thank you for your post @Xavier Graham .
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Is the story of Jesus Christ the greatest story ever told? I think so.

The story of God sending His only son to die for our immorality, in order to redeem our souls, is a touching one, isn't it?

It assumes that we need redemption. Don't we all? Jesus Christ offers us this in the most selfless way.

More than two billion people believe in Christ as the son of God who died for us. It's a story too good not to be true. I find myself desiring to believe in the story too.

It is a story that has endured for millieneum and changed the lives of billions of people.

If it is truly just a story, what a great and powerful story it is!
Quite so, IMV.
 

IndigoChild5559

Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Is the story of Jesus Christ the greatest story ever told? I think so.

The story of God sending His only son to die for our immorality, in order to redeem our souls, is a touching one, isn't it?

It assumes that we need redemption. Don't we all? Jesus Christ offers us this in the most selfless way.

More than two billion people believe in Christ as the son of God who died for us. It's a story too good not to be true. I find myself desiring to believe in the story too.

It is a story that has endured for millieneum and changed the lives of billions of people.

If it is truly just a story, what a great and powerful story it is!
Because the gospels combine history with myth and legend, it is really impossible to know what Jesus did and said. I think most of the extravagant claims he made, such as being the way the truth and the life, are actually just words put into his mouth by people who collected the legends decades after his death.

The Tanakh (Old Testament) teaches us four times that God is not a man. When people make a man into God or a god, this is a form of idolatry. So, no, I don't believe Jesus was God.

“God is not a man… or a son of man”- Num. 23:19;
“… For he is not a man, that he should repent”-1 Sam. 15:29
“He is not a mere mortal like me that I might answer him, that we might confront each other in court." Job 9:32
"For I am God, and not a man— the Holy One among you." Hosea 11:9
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
Is the story of Jesus Christ the greatest story ever told? I think so.

The story of God sending His only son to die for our immorality, in order to redeem our souls, is a touching one, isn't it?

It assumes that we need redemption. Don't we all? Jesus Christ offers us this in the most selfless way.

More than two billion people believe in Christ as the son of God who died for us. It's a story too good not to be true. I find myself desiring to believe in the story too.

It is a story that has endured for millieneum and changed the lives of billions of people.

If it is truly just a story, what a great and powerful story it is!

It's truly a bizarre story, in my opinion. Here we have a powerful creator god who creates flawed human beings and then decides to blame his creations for having been created flawed. This creator god then decides to send itself down to Earth in order to sacrifice itself to itself in order to wipe the slate clean.
 

Brian2

Veteran Member
It's truly a bizarre story, in my opinion. Here we have a powerful creator god who creates flawed human beings and then decides to blame his creations for having been created flawed. This creator god then decides to send itself down to Earth in order to sacrifice itself to itself in order to wipe the slate clean.

That sounds pretty weird.
It's been twisted out of all recognition.
Crazy man.
 

lewisnotmiller

Grand Hat
Staff member
Premium Member
Is the story of Jesus Christ the greatest story ever told? I think so.

The story of God sending His only son to die for our immorality, in order to redeem our souls, is a touching one, isn't it?

Is Jesus dead though?

It assumes that we need redemption. Don't we all? Jesus Christ offers us this in the most selfless way.

I know the common narrative is that this was selfless. I just never could understand what was sacrificed.

More than two billion people believe in Christ as the son of God who died for us. It's a story too good not to be true. I find myself desiring to believe in the story too.

It is a story that has endured for millieneum and changed the lives of billions of people.

If it is truly just a story, what a great and powerful story it is!

Fair enough. I try to judge people on how they treat others, so if this helps you to be a better person, far be it from me to dissuade you.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Exciting, sure. Greater? I disagree. Well I don't know enough about Greek Myth to fully disagree. The Iliad is a banger, I'll give you that. But, is there Greek myths that offers a way to free ourself from suffering and redeem our souls?
Yes. And they're just as credible as Christian myths.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It's truly a bizarre story, in my opinion. Here we have a powerful creator god who creates flawed human beings and then decides to blame his creations for having been created flawed. This creator god then decides to send itself down to Earth in order to sacrifice itself to itself in order to wipe the slate clean.
But first he drowns them all, regardless of guilt or innocence, then repopulates the Earth with the same flawed creatures he used the first time, apparently expecting a different result.

What was that popular definition of insanity, again? :rolleyes:
 

sun rise

The world is on fire
Premium Member
The OP is standard Christianity.

The advent of the Avatar every millennium or so is the greatest story (Jesus being one).

I don't believe he died on the cross but that he did suffer and it is suffering that is redemptive. (Islam and legends in India say he did not die there).
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
But first he drowns them all, regardless of guilt or innocence, then repopulates the Earth with the same flawed creatures he used the first time, apparently expecting a different result.

What was that popular definition of insanity, again? :rolleyes:
FYI: it also works as the definition of "practice."
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Yes. And they're just as credible as Christian myths.

The savior story associated with Jesus (being crucified and hung on a tree, dying to redeem humanity, descending into the underworld after death, and being raised from the dead on the third day) isn't the first of its kind, nor is the virgin birth of a deity or performing supernatural miracles. In fact, there are other Christlike savior stories from paganism and Greek mythology that, in my opinion, are just as credible as the one about Jesus Christ, and these stories predate both Christianity and the Bible. Christianity isn't really unique.

But first he drowns them all, regardless of guilt or innocence, then repopulates the Earth with the same flawed creatures he used the first time, apparently expecting a different result.

What was that popular definition of insanity, again? :rolleyes:

Not only did this "all-knowing" God repopulate the Earth with the same flawed creatures he used the first time before he destroyed everything in a global flood, but the Bible says that God regretted creating humanity (Genesis 6:6-7). Genesis 6:6-7 says that God regretted not only creating humanity but also creating every animal and everything that crawls on the earth and the birds of the air.

There are also scriptures in the Bible that speak of God having regrets other than just creating humanity and all the animals and birds (1 Samuel 15:11; 2 Samuel 24:16; Jeremiah 42:10). Moreover, the Bible speaks of God relenting from the disasters that he had decided to bring down upon his own people as punishment for their transgressions against him (Jeremiah 26:13, 1 Chronicles 21:15, Joel 2:13).

There are Bible versions that use the word "repent" or the past tense of repent instead of using relent. For the record, Jeremiah 26:13, 1 Chronicles 21:15, and Joel 2:13 coincide with Isaiah 45:7 (NIV), which says, "I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the Lord, do all these things." The New King James Version uses the word "calamity" instead of "disaster," and the King James Version uses the word "evil" and not "disaster" or "calamity." The word used in the verse depends on the Bible version.

I would think that a God who is said to be "all-powerful and all-knowing" would know better than to make the same mistake twice. But God did make the same mistake twice, which, in my opinion, was either incredibly dumb and ethically reckless, or he did it because he is a cruel and sadistic maniac who enjoys punishing flawed humanity for acting precisely as he originally intended for humanity to act.
 
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Ben Dhyan

Veteran Member
Is the story of Jesus Christ the greatest story ever told? I think so.

The story of God sending His only son to die for our immorality, in order to redeem our souls, is a touching one, isn't it?

It assumes that we need redemption. Don't we all? Jesus Christ offers us this in the most selfless way.

More than two billion people believe in Christ as the son of God who died for us. It's a story too good not to be true. I find myself desiring to believe in the story too.

It is a story that has endured for millieneum and changed the lives of billions of people.

If it is truly just a story, what a great and powerful story it is!
It is only a story to the unenlightened, to the serious aspirant, the gospels contain instructions for the soul who seeks eternal Heavenly peace
 

Twilight Hue

Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Exciting, sure. Greater? I disagree. Well I don't know enough about Greek Myth to fully disagree. The Iliad is a banger, I'll give you that. But, is there Greek myths that offers a way to free ourself from suffering and redeem our souls?
Only if you believe in souls.

I have no such concerns.
 
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