mr.guy
crapsack
In another thread, i've been told the above "All "-ism"s are ideologies"
Curious beast that i am, i began to think of all the words to which this suffix could be, and typically are, appended to for (voilà) an automatic ideology.
While anyone's welcome to enter, queary and correct, i'll quickly recap here.
W:All "-ism"s are ideologies
me:Cool. I now feel a bit more secure with my sadism.
W: Just so. When you become "the sadist" you have adopted an ideology.
me:Really? What ideals and formulations make sadism an ideology?
Perhaps, for the time being, we'll leave the caricature of "the sadist" alone.
W:The "ideals and formulations" are the very ones that make one "the sadist", whatever those might be. That person has defined a role that, when they fill that role with their being or their behavior, make them that paricular thing.
That is a myth that they create.
me:So we could probably go on to say that anything that eats is invoking, ideologically, consumerism?
W: If the person who eats does so because they are fulfilling the role of "the eater" for whatever reasons, then yeah.
Edit: Examples can be found in any religion --like Rastafarianism where the person is "the Rasta." It's not just something they do, but something they are because of their beliefs. They become the role
me:Is the action of just eating also the execution of an ideology?
W:No, I don't believe so. Behavior is, though, since that stems from who we are.
The person who is "the Rastamon" will behave as Rasta because of what he believes, i.e. who he is. That is an expression of ideology.
To extend that to "the eater", the person who has defined that role for themselves, for whatever their reasons, and fulfills it by eating is expressing an ideology of "the eater". In that role, they will think of themselves and proclaim themselves to be "the eater."
Phew!
Next question: so, the base definition (of an ideology) is dependant on behaviour, or self-perception?
Curious beast that i am, i began to think of all the words to which this suffix could be, and typically are, appended to for (voilà) an automatic ideology.
While anyone's welcome to enter, queary and correct, i'll quickly recap here.
W:All "-ism"s are ideologies
me:Cool. I now feel a bit more secure with my sadism.
W: Just so. When you become "the sadist" you have adopted an ideology.
me:Really? What ideals and formulations make sadism an ideology?
Perhaps, for the time being, we'll leave the caricature of "the sadist" alone.
W:The "ideals and formulations" are the very ones that make one "the sadist", whatever those might be. That person has defined a role that, when they fill that role with their being or their behavior, make them that paricular thing.
That is a myth that they create.
me:So we could probably go on to say that anything that eats is invoking, ideologically, consumerism?
W: If the person who eats does so because they are fulfilling the role of "the eater" for whatever reasons, then yeah.
Edit: Examples can be found in any religion --like Rastafarianism where the person is "the Rasta." It's not just something they do, but something they are because of their beliefs. They become the role
me:Is the action of just eating also the execution of an ideology?
W:No, I don't believe so. Behavior is, though, since that stems from who we are.
The person who is "the Rastamon" will behave as Rasta because of what he believes, i.e. who he is. That is an expression of ideology.
To extend that to "the eater", the person who has defined that role for themselves, for whatever their reasons, and fulfills it by eating is expressing an ideology of "the eater". In that role, they will think of themselves and proclaim themselves to be "the eater."
Phew!
Next question: so, the base definition (of an ideology) is dependant on behaviour, or self-perception?