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ISIS facing manpower shortages

Sees

Dragonslayer
If you think they are struggling then you are wrong. Only last week they were recruiting in Washington State Dept and calling for Jihad against the infidel West in Arabic.

Are you sympathetic to their struggle...it would be a rare treat on here :)
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
Is the term ‘recruiting’ changing its definition to mean to force people to join your cause? lol

That could be why they are weakening. Fear will only work for so long, if that is your ONLY tool to get people to join your ‘cause.’
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
Nope I am against them. You will find most Muslims are against them. Syrians Egyptians Libyans are confounded why John Mc Cain would be sent to arm them and support them.
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
Is the term ‘recruiting’ changing its definition to mean to force people to join your cause? lol

That could be why they are weakening. Fear will only work for so long, if that is your ONLY tool to get people to join your ‘cause.’
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
Maybe you should be watching their TV channels to get to know more about the truth of them.

They are not weakening by any means. They are recruiting all sorts and it is not out of fear you travel 1000's of miles to join them. You do it because you have lost your mind to their ideology and support any measures to unseat the Egyptian president who the USA hate.
 

Deidre

Well-Known Member
Maybe you should be watching their TV channels to get to know more about the truth of them.

They are not weakening by any means. They are recruiting all sorts and it is not out of fear you travel 1000's of miles to join them. You do it because you have lost your mind to their ideology and support any measures to unseat the Egyptian president who the USA hate.

That type of behavior still has fear as its driver.
 

Sees

Dragonslayer
Part of the propaganda will be to deny weaknesses and boast of strength...how groups like this (and dictators) like to work.

The goonies who come from distant foreign countries eat this up. The ones who are snatched up from villages have very unsavory ultimatums given them.
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
Part of the propaganda will be to deny weaknesses and boast of strength...how groups like this (and dictators) like to work.

The goonies who come from distant foreign countries eat this up. The ones who are snatched up from villages have very unsavory ultimatums given them.


There are the ignorant who are recruited in villages. There are the European youth Metallica DJ's who fancy some free sex with young virgin girls. There are the European University students who fancy a gap year handling weaponry and know that the West has their back. There are the Americans who have a gun culture who fancy shooting live people instead of deer and rhino in Africa if they are not already practicing on them in the US army or members of the IDF. I can't see any yet who travel they all the way out of fear though. They are looking for excitement more than anything.
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
Another thing

Since when does the sun shine from both sides and cast shadows in 2 different directions?????
 

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Dragonslayer
There are the ignorant who are recruited in beingges. There are the European youth Metallica DJ's who fancy some free sex with young virgin girls. There are the European University students who fancy a gap year handling weaponry and know that the West has their back. There are the Americans who have a gun culture who fancy shooting live people instead of deer and rhino in Africa if they are not already practicing on them in the US army or members of the IDF. I can't see any yet who travel they all the way out of fear though. They are looking for excitement more than anything.

If you were there and they threatened to slaughter your family (aside from sister, wife, mother being kept for sale) unless you got on board and joined ranks...what would you say?

That is intense fear most people will never experience...it's not ignorance that compels them.

I met people like the ones in ISIS during my couple years of journeying Iraq/Middle East. Most people would crap their pants and do as dictated. We saw this literally over and over again, even in detention centers.

No aspect of the U.S. military practices combat with live bodies...they may test out new or developmental toys.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt is not affiliated with ISIS, Pink. Muslim Brotherhood is a much more mainstream but still conservative Muslim movement that recently, until the Army coup was the government of Egypt, not ISIS.
 
If you were there and they threatened to slaughter your family (aside from sister, wife, mother being kept for sale) unless you got on board and joined ranks...what would you say?

That is intense fear most people will never experience...it's not ignorance that compels them.

There is also the fear of the Shia militias. They aren't much better than ISIS, and certainly worse if you are a Sunni. Something that tends to be a bit underreported. Kurds and Yezidi militias have apparently been taking a bit of revenge on Arabs too.

A horrible sectarian environment has been festering in the region for years which doesn't bode well for the future.


ISIS also carrying out some purges at the moment in light of apparent leadership struggles, always good to see them fighting amongst themselves:

Islamic State executes prominent members who planned coup - ARA News

They seem to be consolidating their positions a bit at the moment though. While they were defeated in Kobani, the fact that they were so persistent in attempts to take the city doesn't seem to suggest that they are suffering from too severe a manpower shortage.

I doubt there will be any significant changes in the near future. It's depressing enough for an outsider, can't imagine what it must be like for the people who actually have to experience it.


Another thing

Since when does the sun shine from both sides and cast shadows in 2 different directions?????

and...?
 

Pink Top Hat

Active Member
If you were there and they threatened to slaughter your family (aside from sister, wife, mother being kept for sale) unless you got on board and joined ranks...what would you say?

That is intense fear most people will never experience...it's not ignorance that compels them.

I met people like the ones in ISIS during my couple years of journeying Iraq/Middle East. Most people would crap their pants and do as dictated. We saw this literally over and over again, even in detention centers.

No aspect of the U.S. military practices combat with live bodies...they may test out new or developmental toys.
are you serious?

do you really think that ISIS take the wives and then hand the husbands missiles and hand grenades and tell them to use them against Kurdish women peshmerga fighters or they will rape their wives?????? seriously
 
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