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Is the bible really saying Jesus had sons

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Jesus in me
No, not in any sense.



The "sons of god" is leftover text after redaction that left in some of Israel's polytheistic past when they worshipped a family of deities.

El was the father god, Yahweh and Baal were his sons, and Asherah first El's wife later attributed as Yahweh's consort, then redacted away after 622 BC and the birth of monotheism.



Yes many do.

But it is not proper to try and place Jesus before his time period.

I don't believe El had anything to do with it. I believe the sons of god are actually the sons of gods which would make them most likely Causcasian and finding women of the Adamic race attractive and marrying them. God would not have approved and the gods would not have approved either. God was intereested in preserving the Adamic race and told them not to mix with the native Canaanites.
The gods wanted to preserve their race as well which is why they used the caste system to distinguish who was Casucasian and who was not.
 

rrosskopf

LDS High Priest
The scriptures only mention two physical sons, Jesus and Adam. The sons mentioned in Job were spirits, premortal men. The sons mentioned in Genesis couldn't have been spirits. One could argue that son of God is a religious connotation or that it shows that they were following God, but that seems awkward in light of the companion phrase daughter of men. Daughter of men doesn't seem to imply any religious connotation. The Book of Enoch translates this quite differently. The sons of God are angels. These aren't the feathered creatures of modern mythology, but the men of the city of Enoch which was translated into heaven. These men have physical bodies and are occasionally sent on missions to the earth by God. Their children are said to have been giants, which must have made gestation difficult, let alone parenting. It may be impossible to separate the grain of truth from the mountain of myth. It is also possible that we simply don't understand the language.
 

rrosskopf

LDS High Priest
For one to believe that Jesus is the one and only God, is to literally dismiss dozens of scriptures to the contrary as conveying no useful information. Yet the same people will claim that the Bible was written by God; apparently a god who doesn't know how to convey useful information. I am tempted to say that such people haven't actually read the Bible, but perhaps it would make more sense to say they haven't actually thought about it for themselves.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
I don't believe El had anything to do with it

Well ancient Israelites were polytheistic, and it is not up for debate in any academic circles. They did follow a family of deities. Monotheism was not born until after 622 BC and also this is not up for debate in any academic circles.

Do you understand the concept of family? you sons and fathers and brothers?

I believe the sons of god are actually the sons of gods which would make them most likely Causcasian and finding women of the Adamic race attractive and marrying them

You have to be joking.

Provide sources to back up such outlandish claims that sound quite racist.
 

Faybull

Well-Known Member
The scriptures only mention two physical sons, Jesus and Adam. The sons mentioned in Job were spirits, premortal men. The sons mentioned in Genesis couldn't have been spirits. One could argue that son of God is a religious connotation or that it shows that they were following God, but that seems awkward in light of the companion phrase daughter of men. Daughter of men doesn't seem to imply any religious connotation. The Book of Enoch translates this quite differently. The sons of God are angels. These aren't the feathered creatures of modern mythology, but the men of the city of Enoch which was translated into heaven. These men have physical bodies and are occasionally sent on missions to the earth by God. Their children are said to have been giants, which must have made gestation difficult, let alone parenting. It may be impossible to separate the grain of truth from the mountain of myth. It is also possible that we simply don't understand the language.


Unless of course, the word rendered "daughters" isn't properly being translated, being rather a village, or villages.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Sons of the Eloyhim (GODS)

plus the word mistranslated as daughters of man

He aleph daleth mem

THE ADAM

Daughters of Adam married the Sons of the GODS


Please notice the part below where it states a "family of gods"

History of ancient Israel and Judah - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Israelite monotheism evolved gradually out of pre-existing beliefs and practices of the ancient world.[76] The religion of the Israelites of Iron Age I, like the Canaanite faith from which it evolved[77] and other ancient Near Eastern religions, was based on a cult of ancestors and worship of family gods (the "gods of the fathers").[78] Its major deities were not numerous – El, Asherah, and Yahweh, with Baal as a fourth god, and perhaps Shamash (the sun) in the early period.[79] By the time of the early Hebrew kings, El and Yahweh had become fused and Asherah did not continue as a separate state cult,[
 
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