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Is Forgiveness and Reconciliation possible, or needed?

Discussion in 'General Religious Debates' started by coconut theology, Mar 22, 2020.

  1. coconut theology

    coconut theology coconuts for Jesus

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    Is Forgiveness and Reconciliation possible, or needed?

     
  2. Thief

    Thief Rogue Theologian

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    I have a thread around here somewhere.....

    it seems no one thinks deeply enough about it

    It's NOT what you are willing to forgive
    that much only sets the stage
    maybe you can be forgiven if you make such practice unto others

    HOWEVER......that doesn't mean everyone.....or anyone
    might be willing to stand beside you
    as you stand before God and heaven

    see the book of Job
     
  3. rational experiences

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    Irrational human behaviour.

    Job.....a human being employed to apply a condition in their life in civilization.

    A male preaches, it is your job in life to forgive me he says.

    What preacher?

    I am preaching on behalf of my own male science self, a male as an adult and as a Father and I committed atrocious and evil acts against you in our human past.

    I sacrificed the life of your brother, as a male in the state science.

    But Father didn't science also attack the Trees, and the animals and the females?

    Yes...but I am only self motivated to discuss my own self....as the wrongdoer.

    I told my own self do not build a Church to preach about my life attacked in science.…..yet I ignored my own advice....life sacrificed by Satanic sciences.

    So I said I need to topple the Temples, that harmed me...science buildings and build buildings that involved the assistance of the life of the human body/spirit to heal.

    Yet I told and warned self...do not build the Church....for I already was self possessed in the sciences.

    So I ignored my own warnings.

    So I built my Church and preached and tried to convince everyone that being life sacrificed was an honour......part of my own warning to self. For the sacrifice of life was not honourable.

    Then in science in my future I then used all of my preaching and tried to relate the Church building and meaning Church into a science theme. Yet in relativity of the sciences, the building before the Church, a Temple was when I was applying sciences with machination...and pyramid.

    So I lost the actual use of my mentality, and prove to self that I have.

    Therefore when I preach please forgive me oh Father, as the son who did science and harmed my own life....but then claim in the same advice...but my Father the original scientist agreed to sacrifice my life.....I am claiming forgiveness of self falsely.

    For I will only be forgiven when I stop lying and using Satanic science against self future living of life.

    So I have to say to self......you told self before that you were forgiven for being wrong...for self told self that you were wrong....and also advised self...okay I was wrong. I need to forgive my own self for being wrong so that I can heal my own guilt, for if I remain in this self destructive taught psyche model...I will destroy all life.

    Therefore I taught self forgiveness so that I could re develop a loving male human life without the guilt that causes a male to be self destructive.

    Why it was an applied conscious teaching to say, if you want to heal life and own a life of applied self healing, then removing self guilt as a taught human concept was involved.

    But until the self accepts that it is guilty for practicing evil science conditions, then we cannot move forward in human life to consciously and also physically heal the human spirit.

    The meaning of I have a Job to do.

    The Book of Job | My Jewish Learning
     
  4. danieldemol

    danieldemol Well-Known Member
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    Don’t have the time at the moment to watch the video, but shooting from the hip (figuratively) I would say I am optimistic that reconciliation can be achieved between rational actors, and I can’t think of any cases where it is undesirable.
     
  5. coconut theology

    coconut theology coconuts for Jesus

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    Did you have any recent time to consider?
     
  6. Unveiled Artist

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    I think I'll take the time to watch this. In general, I feel it's possible. Whether it's needed, it depends on the person. I did a thread a while back and asked if people forgive others in and of itself. A lot of people justified it by their experience of not forgiving because of rape, being in war, and other things happened to their family and to themselves. So, if one can go on without forgiveness (if their health isn't suffering anymore), I don't see a need for it. Most people most likely know healing comes from forgiveness while others are too hurt to even think about it.

    Maybe forgiveness will end a lot of the things these people experienced. It's an irony that if one doesn't forgive their enemy, their enemy can do the same to other people. If everyone practiced forgiveness of others for their actions, that victim may be the first or second to give their prey a chance to change their lives for the better. But it takes getting over one's pain, whether it's worth it, and the situation involved.
     
  7. danieldemol

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    “This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with it has been terminated”
     
  8. Amanaki

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    As others have said here, the video does not work. But to answer to your OP anyway :)
    Yes, forgiveness and reconciliation is always possible, but I do not know if it is needed for any other then our self, because as soon we forgive someone, we are free of ill will and bad thoughts toward that person.
     
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