International high-tech weapons, good or bad?

[Aquitaine]

Hi guys. I was just thinking about this before, take military hardware like the F-35 Lightning II. It is being designed and probably sold internationally by major countries, ranging from (obviously) the US, the UK, and even Turkey.

What is your opinion on multiple countries funding, developing and buying/selling high tech hardware like this - don't you think it's a bit bizarre? This aircraft is supposed to be the dominant aircraft for the next two decades or so, and who's closest rivals will be the F-22 or (if ever completed) the Russian Su-47 - you'd have though countries would act independently and sort of "nationalise" their weapons industries to make sure other big players don't get a lsice of the action so-to-speak.

Also, do you think we will reach a point (if we haven't already) where wars are fought not between different nations, but between Classes - the rich and the poor, regardless of what borders they reside in - so instances where the elite of different nations team up would then not be so bizarre?

 

[tumbleweed41]

1. I find the so called "Defense" industry to have an appalling lack of ethics.
2. We already have class warfare. You don't find many upper class in the trenches.
3. Where's the boobs?

 

[Aquitaine]

Where's the boobs?

LOL! Gotchya!

Here's a nice pair of tits and an a-s-s for your time!

Anyways, do you think that in reality the defense industry are breaking national security by developing high-tech weapons like that with other sovereign nations?

What on Earth guarantees that say for example, the US and Turkey won't fall out and fight each other in the future?

 

[tumbleweed41]

Anyways, do you think that in reality the defense industry are breaking national security by developing high-tech weapons like that with other sovereign nations?

What on Earth guarantees that say for example, the US and Turkey won't fall out and fight each other in the future?

It is all about profits. Hell, we claimed to help the Kurds in Iraq by overthrowing Sadam, but nobody mentions that the Turks use weapons we helped develop to attack Kurds on their side of the border.

 

[kai]

It is all about profits. Hell, we claimed to help the Kurds in Iraq by overthrowing Sadam, but nobody mentions that the Turks use weapons we helped develop to attack Kurds on their side of the border.

Well i suppose its the same logic as domestic weapons isnt it. Guns don't kill people, people do.

 

[Bismillah]

I'm sure the Pentagon isn't disclosing all its military assets just yet. Besides Reagans space laser still orbit the planet don't they?

 

[Caladan]

Hi guys. I was just thinking about this before, take military hardware like the F-35 Lightning II. It is being designed and probably sold internationally by major countries, ranging from (obviously) the US, the UK, and even Turkey.

What is your opinion on multiple countries funding, developing and buying/selling high tech hardware like this - don't you think it's a bit bizarre? This aircraft is supposed to be the dominant aircraft for the next two decades or so, and who's closest rivals will be the F-22 or (if ever completed) the Russian Su-47

The US administration has favored the F-35 because of the high costs of the F-22, however after the inflation the prices for F-35 sky rocketed and placed many question marks on the decision. as for Russian competition, the Su-47 is an experimental jet, the fighter the Russians are working on to compete with the F-35 and F-22 is Sukhoi PAK FA, at the moment Russian aircraft such as the Mig-35 is comparable to the F-35 and the Su-35 is comparable to fighters which have been comprable to the F-22 and F-35, namely the Eurofighter Typhoon.

- you'd have though countries would act independently and sort of "nationalise" their weapons industries to make sure other big players don't get a lsice of the action so-to-speak.

Arms exports are dynamic and beyond the economic interest have been also traditionally used to increase political influence with other nations, for example in the cold war the US and the Soviets used arms exports to strengthen their global positions.
as for making sure arms dont get to where they do not belong, there are a few levels to this. there are agreements and contracts between parties about arms sales, for example a nation which can buy components from another nation, but by contract is forbidden to make use of these components in its own arms exports. on the other hand there is the element of political instability. parties which have received weapons in one conflict, and have turned from 'freedom fighters' into 'terrorists'.

 

[Aquitaine]

It does makeme wonder though at what point did certain nations become so confident in peace between them that they'd not mind developing state of the art weapons with them?

I guess maybe nowadays the world is becoming so much more globalised, with international trade and close Economic bonds, that maybe the old days of major players fighting each other are over, instead now it's big rich countries vs poor weak ones.

 

[.lava]

so far i've heard whoever builds the machine also holds the technology to paralyze its system

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